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Old 02-September-2008, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Neverfly View Post
If I say that DNA plays a role, suddenly I'm getting clumped into the "Women can't do math crowd" even though I do not agree with that crowds claim either.

Like it or not DNA IS EVERYTHING.
It plays a major role.
You must have missed the thread where epigenetics recently came up.

No, DNA is by no means everything. You are not your genes. The genome is just a template.

Furthermore (and this is for Drunk Vegan as well), some human characteristics are more genetic than others. Some are not genetic at all. You need to look at the numbers on a case by case basis, to figure it out. Trying to derive nature from theoretical first principles which you find self-evident but others beg to differ on can only lead you astray.

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Originally Posted by Ken G View Post
And that 10-year-old doesn't have an environment? Last I checked, environment started at birth (some say before, but I'm skeptical there). So, now, tell me how you are going to test the IQ of a newborn, I'm all ears.
Nitpick: I believe that intrauterin conditions are considered environmental, too. Example (see Table 1, for a quick glance).
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