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Old 09-September-2008, 01:28 AM
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"Cosmic-Ray collisions release greater energy than the collisions in our experiment." Does not equate to "nature has and does conduct our experiment harmlessly all the time".
Yes it does. There is nothing different between those collisions and the ones occurring in the LHC.


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FYI QGP is not the same as quarks and gluons being released in a cosmic ray collision with a planetary or solar body. My charming analogy for this one is the difference between peas and carrots vs. peas and carrots in a bubbling soup pot.
It is the same. Two bundles of protons and neutrons smashing into each other with enough energy that the quarks and gluons briefly interact as separate particles. In one instance, it occurs in a detector, and in the other, in stellar and planetary atmospheres and on every rock in the sky. Even in "empty" space, with random atoms of gas. In nature, the resulting particles explode outward into empty space, a star, or a planetary body; in a particle accelerator, into an array of detectors.


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That portion of the LSAG report is a great example of the rhetorical technique known as hyperbole.
No, it's not. Those numbers are determined by simple observation. They are not exaggerated. These events really have happened that many times and continue to happen. It really is that unlikely to cause any catastrophe. There are no rational reasons to fear it.


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And it all depends on that extrapolation of the semiclassical approximation to the realm of quantum gravity. . . .
At this point, this is a lie, plain and simple. You've had it explained numerous times. These numbers are based only on the fact that these collisions occur constantly throughout the universe. They do not depend on any extrapolations of gravity or any untested theory. They depend on simple observation: this stuff happens, nothing bad results.


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So it's safe to say, I'm going to have to go to organic chemistry on thursday?
It could be worse: http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/img/asse...ed_4.19.05.pdf
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