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Old 09-September-2008, 03:15 PM
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Jim, took the words right out of my mouth. Warren refuses to participate in an honest debate, and so I will not debate with him. If anyone else has questions about points he brings up and is honestly interested in answers, don't take this as refusal to discuss those subjects...just refusal to spend time writing answers that will either be ignored or twisted in meaning.


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Wow 7 hours later and no supporting documentation for QGP occurring anywhere else? Still just the same tired line about how many times nature has conducted the experimental program, you've got to be kidding me people?
I wouldn't know where to start looking for such a thing. I'm not sure it even exists, not because it's at all in doubt, but because I wouldn't have even considered saying it. It's just stating the obvious. What do you think is so special about the LHC that only it can produce quark-gluon plasma?


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3. Nature has already completed about 1031 LHC experimental programmes since the beginning of the Universe. << False, the speaker uses no qualifying statements and the purpose is to deceive.
The purpose is to educate and the statement is true. The only difference is that the only data nature has gathered is the absence of star and planet-gobbling micro black holes in their results. Our instruments are more subtle.


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cjameshuff go look up what QGP is and when and where it is theorized to occur.
Prove me wrong with a source. In the course of posting on this thread I have learned to substantiate my positions and verify my sources. I have posted those sources all of which are reputable in each of my threads. This is not a "who can shout loudest wins" discussion.
No. I won't waste my time doing so. The quark-gluon plasma is a result of the collisions, absolutely identical collisions happen in nature. Protons against protons, heavy nuclei against heavy nuclei, at comparable energies and at much higher energies. If the energy in the collision exceeds the binding energy of the quarks composing the protons and neutrons involved, they behave as separate particles instead of components of protons and neutrons. The same collisions will produce the same results no matter where they occur.
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