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Old 17-September-2008, 05:36 AM
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Hello all,
Welcome to BAUT Robert Hastings.

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Dr. Plait has made no secret of his contempt for my research. This thread will be a test to learn whether he has a sense of fair play and will permit me to address the bloggers who post here.
The Bad Astronomer is not a Censor. He may be openly expressive of his opinions, but he does not silence others. He debates them openly.
Whether or not he will participate in this particular thread remains to be seen.
However, Dr Plait is, of course, a busy man and he is not often seen posting on the forum these days.
So I hope you don't have many expectations- it depends on his schedule and active participation.
Moderators of the forum have the task of ensuring that the rules are enforced.
If you review the various threads here- you will find that even if a thread is closed, it remains viewable and accessible.
You will find that many long time posters, dating from the BABB even are still present to post their claims. They are not silenced, censored or banned.

You will find a great many posters who are banned because of clear rules violations. No one is banned for their ideas.

So you have no need to be concerned about whether or not you can present your case here- You can.
Present it well and don't lose your temper, resort to name calling or other rule infractions and you should do just fine The board is Fair.

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I will begin this thread by requesting that the persons who respond to my posts first review some of my articles, especially "UFO Sightings at ICBM Sites and nuclear Weapons Storage Areas", accessible at ufohastings.com.
Dr. Haish defines a skeptic as, “One who practices the method of suspended judgment, engages in rational and dispassionate reasoning as exemplified by the scientific method, shows willingness to consider alternative explanations without prejudice based on prior beliefs, and who seeks out evidence and carefully scrutinizes its validity.”
Setting folks up for preconditioning will not work here.
If you have a case to present, then present it in pieces that can be discussed openly.
Referring folks to websites just isn't practical.
Yes, you can refer to websites to support your argument, just as folks here might refer to websites such as www.clavius.org to support the arguments made on the board.
However, speaking for myself, I have no intention of visiting your website unless I have a reason to do so.
You asking me to go there now- is not sufficient reason.
Compel me- Provide your argument and present your case. Give me a reason to want to.
Because for now, it may as well be another YouTube or FearFactor- "Just go and accept conditioning and then I'll interpret it for you."
Sorry- No Can Do. You must present your case for discussion in your thread so that everyone can see what is being discussed without having to cross reference various websites just to see what the heck everyone is going on about.

As far as the other suggestions for googling- Yes. That works and we can google McDonald and other resources as we go along.
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Okay, enough for now. Assuming that the powers that be on this website aren't afraid to air the other side of the UFO story, by banning my posts, I look forward to educating and debating those who post here.
No fear here and there's a good several years long archives to demonstrate that.
The only way to get banned is by your own hands.

Walking in with the attitude that you're going to get squelched right off the bat is not the best introduction.
It presents that image that you intend to cry "Censorship!" everytime someone simply disagrees with you.
It strongly implies a bias on your part against skeptics.
It's also a rather clear and defined accusation against people that (Aside from Dr. Plait) are strangers to you of being devious and liars- And I for one have little tolerance for someone calling me a liar.

So I also suggest that you try to keep an open yet rational mind about your skeptical opposition.
We may disagree about the nature of UFO's, but there is no reason why we can't get along, respect eachother and discuss the issue without flaming or accusations or mudslinging.

Again- Welcome to BAUT and let's hear your case
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