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Old 19-September-2008, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by NEOWatcher View Post
Sorry, but that doesn't sound like "use" to me. Those sound more like definitions of the process of creating it. Fine; but I was asking what this can do? What good is it? It's a method of representation... I get that. How do I interpret the meaning? How do I use it to do research or explain something? In other words, you are describing a way to draw a picture of a fuzzy wuzzy bunny. Now; what can I do with a picture of a fuzzy wuzzy bunny?
Of course, some people aren’t interested in dynamic understanding of the solar system, but then some are not interested in other topics in astronomy either. The second example, the Jupiter-Saturn-Neptune relation, is the one which to me best shows the power of this method to reveal new findings. It goes well beyond definition of the process. In looking at the solar system as a whole over long periods, the JSN cycle is a significant defining empirical structure. This method illustrates it very clearly. It differs from a rabbit or a phone number in that it is defined by the actual structure of our solar system, so produces sonic shapes which are physically determined rather than arbitrary.
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Originally Posted by Christopher Ferro View Post
some people have an inherently harder time understanding concepts like orbital resonances and such when just presented with numbers. For some, animations of orbits help illuminate the concept. This might be a way to use sound, and I can see where it could help a lot of people (students, perhaps) "get" orbital resonances. Beyond that, I guess maybe you're right, and it serves no deeper value for research or understanding. But it it definitely NOT a fuzzy wuzzy bunny (although even a drawing of a fuzzy wuzzy bunny could be used to illustrate light and shadow, or colors, or drawing techniques). CJSF
Thanks. In the JSN case, I am arguing that there are secondary orbital resonances between planetary conjunctions, which are a different but real resonant phenomenon from the mean motion and Laplace resonances described at the orbital resonance wiki. These secondary resonances have not to my knowledge been much previously examined, but they emerge clearly from this method of representation. As well, this method quantifies non-resonant relations. For example, a heliocentric sonic model of the four inner planets will illustrate the temporal relations between their orbits.