Is there a problem with free speech? I'm still interested in this topic; there's new stuff happening just about every day, and the LHC won't be a fait accompli for several month yet. If you're not interested in this topic, then don't press your mouse button. The fact is, this thread is generating a lot of page views. Fraser was complaining that his server was choking on the volume of people googling about the LHC. The page-view/post ratio for this thread has been about three times the typical page-view/post ratio. Instead of trying to shut me down through procedural tactics, why don't you attack my ideas. Plaga just came out with a rejoinder to Giddings and Mangano. Why don't you tell us what's wrong with Plaga's latest (sec. 8, p. 9), instead of trying to shut off the conversation.