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Old 04-October-2008, 01:51 AM
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Also, if not for a fundamental certainty, what's with all the hatred of the electric universe theory? I mean, "magnetic fields are fundamentally coupled with electric ones, and absent a bar magnet, their only cause is the matter at hand being an element in an electric circuit carrying electric current" is a prima facie case that there is electric current flowing through the sun and the Earth. It may be wrong, if disproved by evidence, but at least it's a logical argument.
Just this one, very quickly ...

It's not science, and is quite blunt about it.

There's an interesting thread in the JREF Forum's Science, Mathematics, Medicine and Technology section, called Plasma Cosmology - woo or not. The thread's extremely long, but in the end the conclusion is stark: "electric universe theory"* is anti-science.

Huh?!?!?

I'll quote the key part, because it's so remarkable:
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The basic assumptions of plasma cosmology which differ from standard cosmology are:

1. Since the universe is nearly all plasma, electromagnetic forces are equal in importance with gravitation on all scales.[10].
2. An origin in time for the universe is rejected,[11] due to causality arguments and rejection of ex nihilo models as a stealth form of creationism.[12]
3. Since every part of the universe we observe is evolving, it assumes that the universe itself is evolving as well, though a scalar expansion as predicted from the FRW metric is not accepted as part of this evolution
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E) Since every part of the universe we observe is evolving, it assumes that the universe itself is evolving as well. A scalar expansion as predicted from the FRW metric is not accepted as part of this evolution, ie, the universe is assumed as static and infinite.
In other words, this so-called theory rejects, by fiat, the theory of General Relativity (GR).

Note well: GR is "not accepted" not because it has been tested and a fatal inconsistency between theory and observations clearly demonstrated; nor is GR rejected because it is incapable of being tested ... GR is rejected because, well, just because.

There's more, of course, such as the assumption that "the universe is nearly all plasma", and the astonishing failure of logic in the conclusion from this assumption; if you want to present, and defend, this anti-science, please start a new thread in the ATM section.

* "Plasma Cosmology" is, to all intents and purposes, the same as "electric universe theory"