View Single Post
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 17-October-2008, 04:57 PM
papageno's Avatar
papageno papageno is offline
Order of Kilopi
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Greater London
Posts: 3,379
Send a message via MSN to papageno
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by aastrotech View Post
I'll quote you from the first paragraph of the rules; “Be polite”.

While sophisticated concepts composed a number of elements have similarities with a salad in that they both have a number of elements, rude comments like "word salad" "woo woo'" and "hand waving" are verbal garbage. They give no clue as to where to start to improve the poster's understanding and they make no point that can be disputed. They are the verbal equivalent of nonfalsafieable evidence.
If you think I have behaved inappropriately, you can report me to the moderators.


Quote:
Originally Posted by aastrotech View Post
It is an indulgence which I will not grant to communicate with a rude person. It is an indulgence for myself to answer polite questions. In fact it is a pleasure. I have no problem answering polite questions. But I can't get a grip on questions with rude comments mixed in. I think that if you all edit your questions and points carefully to remove the rude comments you will find that some of your points fall apart for yourselves.
Comments like these?
Quote:
Originally Posted by papageno
And it does not answer my question: can you show us how anisotropy is responsible for refraction of waves?
Using you example: can you shows us that the light of the explosion is refracted?

[...]

A spherical wave is the same in any direction (remember: "Isotropy is uniformity in all directions" and "Isotropic radiation has the same intensity regardless of the direction of measurement, and an isotropic field exerts the same action regardless of how the test particle is oriented" from your Wikipedia link), therefore it is isotropic.

[...]

How about a stick of dynamite and a nuclear bomb, both a high altitude? The shockwaves are both spherical.

[...]

What if we don't have a complicated wave?
What if it is just a spherical wave (which is isotropic) or a simple plane wave (which is anisotropic)?

[...]

The surface is no longer homogeneous either.
...
And if you look at it from the point of view of the pucker, the surface is isotropic.
...
But the effect does not depend on the direction in which the wave travels across surface.

[...]

Except that in your analogy the refraction does not depend on the direction of travel, and therefore it is not a matter of isotropy or anisotropy of the surface. Infact, it is the consequence of having a region of the surface being different than the surrounding areas: an inhomogeneity. Just like a lens in optics.

[...]

Show us examples from actual textbooks where they say "light travels through an electromagnetic field" or "sound moves through a density field".

[...]

Light is a wave, it is not an analogy.
An electromagnetic wave satisfies a (mathematical) wave equation.
Can you point to the rudeness in these comments?
If you cannot, please address these points.
__________________
papageno


"Why waste time learning, when ignorance is instantaneous?" - Hobbes (Calvin and Hobbes)

"It's all about context!" - Vince Noir (The Mighty Boosh)

"I've never heard of such a brutal and shocking injustice that I cared so little about!" - Zapp Brannigan (Futurama)

"...because the logic of the lines traced from reality is as poor of aesthetic value as it is strict in consistency. " - Paolo Bozzi (Naive Physics - free translation)