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What makes you think that this is "well-established scientific fact"
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I've posted links to studies that show the effect across ages and cultures. That completely settles it.
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or that intelligence tests are good measures of scientific or mathematical capability at high levels ?
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You misunderstand. These are math tests. By definition that is a measure of mathematical capability.
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And as an aside, I find your general tone in addressing Ken G rather distasteful and arrogant.
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This is intentional and he richly deserves it. Here's a little trip down memory lane. I posted all that I had to say on this subject back in July. I recognized that some people disagreed with me, and I respected them nonetheless. On November 1st, Paracelsus posted
this message, in which she claimed that my side of the argument was sexist, offensive, and pseudoscientific.
I can accept the fact that I may be wrong. I've "seen the light" on issues before (GW for example). But I will not sit still and be attacked personally. Nobody has a free pass to call me, or anyone else, a sexist for essentially claiming that humans are *gasp* like every other animal on planet Earth. The bottom line is, she lowered the discourse as far as I'm concerned. I reengaged to correct her.
Here's my response. I think I was very polite. Ken G then
inserted himself and was quite flippant, right in his first sentence. He went on to say my side of the argument is completely unsupported by evidence. Really? I posted studies. Drunk Vegan posted studies. He waives all of that away with a flip of his hand.
And the best part of all of this, he's wrong! Paracelsus is wrong. They're wrong and they don't respect those who disagree with them. They've earned a good rhetorical lashing.
Just think about it: Ken G has posted nothing. Nothing at all. He doesn't even read the studies that I link to. This is the standard bearer for my opponents in this thread. Logic wont work with him, or anyone like him. Please allow me to at least have some fun with it.