Hey Johnwits:

Ahem...The Harrier isn't sucha good example. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img] I was at the Oshkosh fly-in some years ago when they had a Harrier demo. They landed it on the grass 'cuz the jet blast would (thermally) crack the concrete runway.

The grass landing was something you had to survive to believe. We were about 100 yards away and we were catching grass, dirt, pebbles, worms, paper trash, younameit. It left a burnt creater about one harrier in diameter & about a foot deep.

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