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Originally Posted by Jetlack
Yes Predetermination frightens me because it means an ultimately closed finite system, and i would feel conned by nature. To me it seems like Determinism is the slippery slope to full blown Predetermination.
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Personally I think that there is a logical inconsistency built right into the concept of predetermination-- which comes from the prefix "pre". The future could be determined, just like the past is, without being "pre" determined-- it might be determined in a way that is
outside time. That's like the way the outcome of a historical nonfiction book is-- you are reading about people exercising free will, and you know exactly what they will do and what will come of it. When they were making those decisions, was it somehow determined that you would later be reading about them? Perhaps, but it was not predictable. Could anything ever have happened any different than it did? I can't see what it means to say that it could, but nothing is "pre" determined, we just don't know it was determined until it happens, unless it is perfectly predictable.
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It would be preferrable (to me) to know that creativity is spontaeous and not some pre-programmed code executed at the beginning of the universe.
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Spontaneity is another interesting concept-- if we see a movie in which the actor does something spontaneous in that moment, was that not a spontaneous act? Why is it less spontaneous to know that the action was captured on a film that has been in a box for a month and could not suddenly be different when you watch it?