I'll debunk


When testing the feasibility of humans in space, tests were first conducted using animals. No animal however was used to test a return Moon journey.


The reason they didn't test animals was because they had to get to the moon NOW not stuff around with testing animals as this would have costed a lot of money and delayed the trip even further (remember they had to beat the russians)




If a Moon landing was possible, in reality it was not, then surely it would make logical sense to send the astronaut who had the most space experience on the first Moon mission. An astronaut who had experienced long duration's of weightlessness in Earth orbit. Apollo 11 was Armstrong's second and final space mission, which of course was in low Earth orbit.

Dam im no good at this debunking

They had trained for years on earth in simulated conditions is this good enough (someone pleease expand on this)



When mankind ventures into new, unknown territory, with great risks attached, the first person who makes that journey would, in all sense and reason, accompany the second person, or persons on a return journey for guidance, and essential procedures to prevent any mishaps occurring. Neither Armstrong, Aldrin, or any other Apollo astronaut for that matter accompanied fresh astronauts on that new journey. It is astonishing that all missions managed to land safely and take off again without a hitch, but they never got anywhere near to the Moon, which would of course explain why this was so.


Errrr i can't understand are you saying this is when armstrong steps on the moon or another journey? :-?


Astronauts with the most space experience should be first in line for any round trip to the Moon, being a return journey of 500,000 miles. However for many of the Apollo astronauts, the alleged Moon landing was their FIRST AND ONLY space mission, which seems somewhat odd. Those first timers were also manning the communication consoles at mission control during other Apollo missions. There were in fact TWO communication links on all Apollo missions. The first was LAUNCH CONTROL, who communicated with the astronauts from the moment of launch, up until they were in Earth orbit. Once in Earth orbit, communication to the astronauts was transferred to those "limited few in the know" who were manning MISSION CONTROL. They had to do it this way so that LAUNCH CONTROL would not wise up to the fact that they were not going to the Moon at all. For what other reason would they have two separate communication links, and why is this practice not operated today?


The launch control/mission control split was put in place for Gemini 4 and has been used ever since for both Apollo and shuttle. The switch occurs when the launch vehicle clears the tower. Mr. NASASCAM is once again showing his ignorance.

and why is this practice not operated today?

It is

In 1968 NASA Chief Astronaut, Deke Slayton, (one of the main perpetrators of faking Apollo), visited the film set of "2001 Space Oddity", in the UK He referred to it as NASA East, and it was here that he got the idea for filming the mock lunar module, and command module separation and docking. Film of the alleged booster stage falling away from module was also sequenced on Kubrick's film set. Think about it, how could you install a camera in the center part of a rocket booster engine without it being burned to a crisp? It can only be done on a film set, and why is it we only see this sequence, albeit repeated for each Apollo mission, only on the Moon missions, and not on any other space mission? TV pictures allegedly beamed back to Earth showing the lunar module separation, were razor sharp color images, why therefore were the TV transmissions from the Moon gray and fuzzy, after all they were supposedly transmitted across the same distance in space


How do you he got the idea from that? Prove it with more evidence

The camera was sheilded inside the module

The reason its used for a moon mission is prahaps because of the greateter distances you need to travel

The colour (Australian spelling) is because the camera was close to earth and could transmit more data live


In Tim Furniss's book "One Small Step", there are numerous references to mechanical, electrical, and other problematic failures in practically EVERY Gemini and Apollo mission. It's unbelievable that the USA ever got into space at all, let alone to the Moon and back, which of course they did not. Many NASA space problems and failures continued long after the Apollo program, and still continue today. If NASA could achieve such amazing feats over 34 years ago, then space technology has gone backwards instead of forward.


So you've only looked at this from one source? Come back with more evidence. NASA has many technological feats your only pointing out a few problems they have had in the past

Technology NEVER goes backwards (well the church makes it possible) it is just never used again prahaps due to lack of interest, money, etc


In the 80's, at the height of the Reagan's Star Wars program, a shuttle was launched into space , and it's on board computer was programmed to "lock on" to a laser beam projected from the top of a 2,000 foot high mountain somewhere in the states. Unfortunately all distance measurements programmed into the shuttle's computer were registered as miles, consequently the "lock on" device aboard the shuttle began scanning the globe searching for a 2,000 mile high mountain. Unable to locate one, the shuttle turned on it's back, and began scanning outer space to search for the immortal 2,000 mile high mountain.


Irrelevant


In the 90's, an American shuttle due to dock with the Mir space station, had a fuel leak, and was spraying out fuel as it approached Mir. Russia refused the shuttle to come anywhere Mir, until the leak had been repaired, in case the spewing fuel damaged the stations sensitive solar panels.

Irrelevant


Admittedly Russia has had the occasional problem/failure, however their problem/failure rate is substantially lower than that of the USA. Russia was of course the first in space with sputnik, an animal, a man, a woman, a space walk, and finally a space station. They were the first in everything to do with space. The USA were paranoid at the Soviet successes in space, as it could not be seen that a Communist country was leading the world in this new found technology.


Russians have had many blunders, most of these however were surpressed and often occured before they got anywhere near space

The USA is by far the most advanced in the world



It was after Shepherd's 15 minute sub orbital "space hop", that JFK made his now infamous speech that America should commit itself to landing a man on the Moon, and returning him safely to Earth, within 8 years. A bold, brash, and somewhat ridiculous statement to make following a 15 minute space hop a mere 69 miles above Earth, after all the Moon was over 250,000 miles away. Scientists knew there and then that it was an impossibility, but Kennedy had said it, and USA would face ridicule if they could not achieve it.
By the mid to late 60's, NASA realized a Moon landing was totally impossible within 8 years. Top NASA officials met in secret, and decided the only option was to fake the Moon landing in 1969, in the hope that they would get there shortly after, whereby they could shroud the earlier faked missions with genuine Moon photographs and film.

Just because someone is an optimist doesn't mean you can jump on them when everting goes their way

Whats the evidence that they met in secret? Prove it


Many point to President Richard (Tricky Dicky) Nixon as the main culprit behind the biggest lie ever inflicted on society. This however is incorrect because the idea's and planning which went into faking the Moon missions began in the early 60's, following Kennedy's now infamous speech to Congress. It was therefore L B Johnson who had the most inside knowledge and plans to fake the Moon mission, and it was he who made most of the Apollo material classified, with a declassification date of 2026. Nixon took office shortly before Apollo 11, but continued the lies under guidance from the CIA in order to boost American pride which was at an all time low. Every U.S. President from L B J up to Dubya Bush are fully aware that the Moon missions were faked, but CIA have the upper hand when it comes to American security, and pride of place in space technology.


the classified material is probaly reserved for the military and so china or russia can't move their asses into space theres good reason from keeping military specs and other stuff under wraps for a long time


Getting to the Moon and back is, of course, a long way into the future, and could not be achieved today, even with a joint international effort to share the cost. NASA faked Apollo so as not to face ridicule over JFK's speech, but over 34 years on they are making themselves a worldwide laughing stock with the ridiculous pictures on their Apollo web sites. One does not have to be a photographic expert to spot that the pictures are 100% fake.

Your stating this as a fact you can't do that because it is merely an opinion

Are you a photographic expert? Because thats probaly the reason you think their faked you have no knowledge of photography


NASA's feeble excuse for not returning to the Moon is because they cannot afford it. The Apollo program allegedly cost $25 billion, at a time when the USA was heavily involved in the Vietnam war, that alone cost them $250 billion, 10 times the cost of Apollo. They have not been involved in anything as big as Vietnam since, so why this feeble excuse, especially as technology has increased four thousand fold since 1969? If NASA's Moon landings were genuine, then getting to the Moon and back should be far easier today than what it was back in 1969. It would cost the same, or less than what Apollo cost, because the technology, ie, tried and tested methods, along with drawings and equipment etc., has apparently already been done. The reason they cannot return is because they never went there in the first place. One cannot return to a place one has never visited.

TAX COLLECTOR TIP HIM UPSIDE DOWN AND TAKE ALL HIS CASH!!!!!!! You really want to pay those taxes?

No reason to go back yet they beat russia

Conspiracy theroyists cries of Prove it! not withstanding

I don't belive the vietnam war cost 250Billion Prove it

Why go back when you can use 25 billion on something else? Such as SCHOOLS!

Why aren't maglevs cheap to run if they've been around for 20 years?

In 1981, ex NASA employee, and long time skeptic of Apollo, Bill Kaysing, appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show, detailing how NASA had conned the American people into believing that they had landed men on the Moon. A national survey by the program makers showed a staggering 60% of Americans believed the Moon landings were faked. We have moved on a further 20 years, and it is now estimated the figure is 97%.

Bill kaysing is not a NASA empolyee you idiot

Those statistics are waaaaaaaaaaay inflated its really only 6% who belive was faked

Besides i don't care whether 100% belive it was faked it doesn't prove anything

Bill Kaysing has offered to appear on a live TV debate with any of the Apollo astronauts, NASA officials, or even the whole lot of them together, verses him on his own, to answer questions, and debate the authenticity of Apollo. Think about this, if these astronauts had indeed been to the Moon, and NASA truly landed men on the Moon as they claim, then they have absolutely nothing to fear, and could demolish Bill Kaysing's theory in less than 5 minutes. Not only that, but they would make him look ridiculous in front of millions of people, however both astronauts and NASA continually decline for any such meeting/debate on television. That just about sums it up in a nutshell, THEY CANNOT ANSWER HIS QUESTIONS.



More recently Kaysing has accused NASA of murdering the 3 astronauts in the Apollo 1 fire because they would not go along with any faking of Moon missions. This is a very libelous statement to make if it were untrue. Has NASA taken any legal action to sue Kaysing for labeling them as murderers? No of course not because (A) The statement may be true, (B) If it were not true any legal action would bring into question the authenticity of the alleged Moon landings, and that is what NASA do not want.

They can't meet them beacuse they have better things to do than demoslish some guys theroy besides anything NASA said would have been untrue becuase of the nature of conspircay theroists


This statement doesn't even need to be sued over let the guy belive what he wants to belive NASA doesn't give a rats *** what he thinks

The TV series "From the Earth to the Moon", showed just how easy it was to create a Moon landscape, as well as simulated gravity. The film was identical in every way to the original Apollo films, and yet this series was filmed in a TV studio. The film makers even used the same scene from the faked Apollo 17 pictures, and even used the same Moon buggy, which was supposedly LEFT ON THE MOON.

Its a show okay i can make a show about computers would that make computers fake?

Errr the moon buggy on the moon hmmmmm i don't know about that


There are many, many visual signs in the photographs and film, which point to the fact that they are not genuine, likewise there are many irregularities in the alleged Moon mission data, statements made describing each mission, and comments made by the astronauts. Scientific evidence also proves that they could not have landed on the Moon, and returned safely to Earth.

See badastronomy.com about that

And what scientiffic evidence?


It is not mankind's greatest achievement as we were told back in 69, but possibly the biggest scam, con, hoax, call it what you like of the last century. NASA refuse to answer any questions regarding Apollo, and likewise the astronauts are reluctant to talk about their alleged Moon missions, as shown in the acknowledgments section of Tim Furniss's fictional book entitled "One Small Step".

NASA and the astronaughts have got better things to do then answer questions to stupid people who will twist everting they say

You can tell by Armstrong's actions, and the look on his face during pre launch interview, that he knows he is not going anywhere near the Moon, and has been forced to tell lies in front of millions of people. He is nervous, stumbles over his words, and looks down at the table in front of him like some little boy who has been told off by his teacher. This was to hide his guilt from the camera, hardly the behavior of a man about to make history. The guilt is also clearly visible on the faces of all three astronauts whilst in the quarantine chamber aboard Hornet. All three struggle to raise a smile, but are unable to keep it up. There faces quickly return to a sullen look as if to say "We should not be conning the American people in this way".

Oh come on! The moon landings are a big step don't you think they would of been nervous about going into space? Its called fear they were fearing it would go wrong or they would die

Don't pounce on nervousness its like getting the results to a test


There is an old saying that "A liar needs a good memory". Nowhere is this more true than in the Apollo program. NASA tell lies to cover up previous lies, and other discrepancies uncovered by people investigating the Moon landings. Altering previous data, removing photographs, and retracting statements made, only re-enforces the evidence that NASA are on the run, and being forced into a corner to which they cannot escape. The actions of those under investigation makes the investigator more aware they are bluffing. The longer that person, or persons, who make the extravagant claims continue, the more lies they have to tell in order to counteract it, until it reaches the point where it becomes ridiculous. That point was passed in July 1999, when NASA officials were questioned about the Moon landings on television. They dodged the all important questions like a drifter dodges the heat.


Prove they are destroying evidence

And remember NASA has better things to do than answer questions


Many Apollo astronauts have long since died, as to have many of the original NASA officials involved in the scam, consequently current officials, who know that Apollo was a fake, have not quite got it right when talking openly in public. Perhaps the biggest slip of the tongue was made by NASA Chief Dan Goldin when interviewed by UK TV journalist Sheena McDonald. He said that mankind cannot venture beyond Earth orbit, 250 miles into space, until they can find a way to overcome the dangers of cosmic radiation. He must have forgot that they supposedly sent 27 astronauts 250,000 miles outside Earth orbit over 34 years ago.

So what if one person says something? DOESN'T PROVE ANYTHING!!!!!


During the 60's and 70's, many Third World countries were drifting towards Communism, and the USA regarded any increase in Communism, no matter how small, as a direct threat to their democracy. The USA, under the guidance of the CIA, would pull out all the stops, and do practically anything, to halt this sway towards Communism, no matter how bizarre a plan was put forward. At this time Russia was, and still are, way ahead of the USA in space technology. The CIA assumed that those countries drifting towards Communism were impressed with the Soviet space success rate, when in reality they were simply ridding their countries of corrupt democratic governments.

And........?


The CIA also surmised that working class people in the countries moving towards Communism were of low intelligence, and therefore gullible enough to believe anything. Again this is untrue, as Cuban schools have, since 1969, always taught the Apollo Moon landings as fake. If the USA could impress the world with a super human technological feat, it may turn the tide, and convince those countries that a democracy like the USA was the way forward.


Indeed they were undereducated poor and desparate so they were gullible Its a proven fact SOLCIALISM CANNOT SURPASS CAPITALISM!!!!!!!

Cuban schools teaching that? Prove it


It was of course a pathetic move by the CIA, who were ill informed at the time, and did not consider the future implications, because they now cannot find a way to follow on from Apollo. When questioned why no Moon missions have taken place since Apollo, NASA make feeble excuses that they cannot afford it. The real truth of the matter is that they do not have the technology to accomplice such a feat in the year 2003, and certainly would not have had it back in 68, when Apollo 8 supposedly orbited the Moon.

NASA Doesn't have enough money unless you would like to pay extra taxes and risk your life going on the moon


The most baffling aspect of all this, is how astronauts like Armstrong and Aldrin could have been led astray by such a scenario. Both are highly trained fighter/test pilots, and could not therefore be classed as dumbo's, moreover highly intelligent personnel, with a highly skilled job. How could they possibly go along with such a scam, which would undoubtedly be exposed in later years? Many believe they, and the other astronauts, were influenced by mind expanding drugs, which were extremely common at about this time. However I have found no evidence to support this claim. The only real way to find out would be to speak to Armstrong or Aldrin direct, and of course this is impossible. Armstrong, and other Apollo astronauts still alive, have strict instructions not to discuss the authenticity of the Moon landings with any reporter, or investigative journalist.


This can be best summed up by Neil Armstrong's remark when confronted by investigative journalist Bart Sibrel. "Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies". Would Armstrong make this remark if he had nothing to hide?

The Astronauts just don't take the bait of conspiracy theroists

And Bart Sibrel had said that remark not Buzz Aldrin


PAN is next post im tired


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