I'm sorry I can't respond to all of you, the library guard only allows us so much time.

You know, I took on a grievance last year and brought it to a meeting where we were outnumbered 128 -2. Well, here I Am again and my butt is just about as sore. The sad thing was, is that in that case the grievant and myself were correct.

Put all of your thrust ratings, nozzle theories, and degrees away boys. I've proven what I need to prove and no, it wasn't that Apollo 11 didn't land on the moon.

If you look at my opening statements I spoke of how a person who opposes anything is likely to get trampled in a discussion on this site. It is sad some of you don't see the moon landing for what they are when it comes to the Hoax discussion. It is the D.B. Cooper of Space. A fun topic . If you have the evidence on your side, why are you so defensive?

The horse I leave on is the one I rode in on. Actually I didn't ride a horse in but Jay convinced everyone of that so I'll go with it. I thought I made it obvious in my opening statement I was walking in, in a humble manor into your home. Not quite, but almost instantly the condescending nature of a few of the board masters presented themselves like a car salesman on a used car sales lot.


The picture is just that, a photo. For what Jay claims to be true, not only would the triangular print be smeared, but the displaced soil from the probes next to it would be flattened as well. I see that, an LA homicide detective see's that. We simply disagree fellas, it's not the end of the world. I didn't come here to change your mind on this fellas, I knew that would be impossible. I came here to see if anyone could adequately answer some of the question I have, and no, they just weren't about this one photo.

Now Jay kept accusing me of changing horses. Well no, not at all, not on this subject. Jay presented the soil around the pad as evidence and he has to expect that evidence to be required to be validated, not taken just at his word, no matter who he is. And while he claimed he never said the soil was unaffected by the blast, he implied that.

I believe Jay wrote:

There is nothing in the fluid dynamics model of the LM exhaust plume that stipulates significant direct or indirect loading at the site of the footpads. You're simply handwaving here.

And then later Jay wrote:

You're the one saying it's unaffected. I never did. Why do you keep trying to pin your assumptions on me?
God Jay, you crack me up. It looks like you the one doing the hand waiving here.

Why are you guys hiding in your own protective little world when you have an unbeatable case? (not necessarily conceding Jay, just saying based on current evidence, your side is unbeatable [-X ). Go take a look at other post on this site under this subject. You track out like scavengers, find someones claim, and then drag it back to your den in secret to ravage it with your comrades. You never confront anyone with your knowledge on their turf or do you?

I dated a girl once who had a God given talent (yeah I wish). She'd say her piece, listen to the response, maybe argue some more, listen some more and walk away when it was over. I said to her once, "Man, you missed a great shot, you could have pointed out....." She just responded, "My mother taught me at a young age that most people have to have the last word as they find power in that, so I let them have it."
So gentlemen, say what you have to say, I'll read it all. I'm going to go back and try to reread all of this as it was a bit overwhelming at times. I honestly have enjoyed it.

By the way, remember the meeting and grievance that the grievant and I were outnumbered 128 to 2. Although we received a butt whippen in public, the behavior in the scheduling process we brought to light ceased almost immediately.

Always,
Uncle Jim
One last quote for you on this subject
"Why Did God Create Alcohol? So us Irish would never rule the world."