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Old 18-February-2009, 07:45 PM
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Thank you for your patience while I celebrated my birthday and while the daily rotation of the planet suggested that those of us in the United States should get some sleep. I'm sorry that those superfluous activities got in the way of your great debate. Of course none of us should have a life outside the internet. I apologize for my dereliction.
Thats interesting, especially when you consider that England is at least 5 hours ahead of America. You may deem the poor TV quality versions acceptable, but I do not.

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You are trying to establish some sort of negligence or impropriety on NASA's part for not having retained the SSTV tapes in a prominent location and in usable form.
Yes I do hold NASA responsible for losing such data. In England we have the original Magna Carta, dating from 1215 which is kept at the British Library. How can such important data be essentially lost when they are only 40 years old? Thats like Britain mislaying footage of the Queens Coronation...

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justify the expense and effort of maintaining the means to read it, and (b) justify your vilification of NASA (really the National Archives) for not having taken better care of it.
What expense and effort? You have boxes of film that you document and mark so that future generations can benefit.

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The fact remains that the SSTV raw data tapes are simply not a practical means for storing and viewing the Apollo 11 EVA television record. The only way in which that data may be used is to sit physically in front of a decades-old machine and watch the image on the built-in CRT. Here is a picture of the machine as it was instantiated at Honeysuckle Creek. You have steadfastly ignored those practical limitations, as evidenced in your attempts to analogize the problem only in terms of standardized formats.
The big problem is that your now trying to make excuses for NASA. NASA devised the system and soon took it out of service. So your telling me that an electronics buff couldnt devise a machine to read these tapes?

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But unfortunately you have made an argument that requires you to shoulder the burden to prove that the SSTV is not merely of abitrarily or abstractlly better quality, but of sufficiently better quality than all other surviving copies to justify the practical steps that must be taken to obtain, store, an acces it. You are now trying to lower that burden of proof and shift it to Dwight. You are the one making a tempest about how inexcusable it is not to be able to view the SSTV raw data. That requires you to justify your expectations.
What event is bigger than man walking on another planet? If you can show me pictures from the TV tapes that are of better quality then please go ahead, as that is your side of the argument. I have posted SSTV pictures that we can all see are of better quality. If you think you have seen as good quality pictures from copies then please point in the direction towards them so I can go and have a look and compare them.
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