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Originally Posted by forrest noble
I seem to have a difference of opinion concerning the rules with some moderators concerning the ATM section. In a posting, Sept. 15, 09, I received the following comment:
Forrest Noble. Please everyone stick to the OP. It's not the purpose of this thread to air everyone's fave 'Steady State' ATM, theory or link.
This is certainly a fair enough comment -- the problem with his comment was that I (but maybe others) was not proposing or "airing" my favorite or any ATM proposal, simply discussion of the OP proposal -- the pros and cons, with the OP and those asking related questions.
Captain Swoop's next post said:
On a previous discussion of the rules the following discussion took place:
The question concerning the rules I think is this: In Captain Swoop's posting he said this: "One more post that isn't in response to the OP" will see a suspension. I think that Captain Swoop is interpreting the rules to mean that members cannot talk to each other concerning the pros and cons of the ATM proposal of the OP. I'm interpreting the rules to mean that discussion with other members concerning relevant points of the OP is acceptable. Another problem may be that one may think a certain point is very relevant concerning the OP and a single moderator might think that it is not and stop further discussion on that and other related matters.
I would like additional clarification since apparently Captain Swoop did not accept the opinion of another moderator, hhEb09'1 -- as seen above.
I reported this and another incident to moderators but I think further clarification of the rules on this matter may be needed.
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I'll add a few words which may help clarify things (note that I am not a mod, not commenting on moderation, etc).
Your posts in the ATM thread prior to #86 seem to be good examples of clarification questions etc; the ATM idea being presented was not clear at first (indeed, it still isn't).
However, in post #86 you introduced commentary concerning ATM ideas which seem quite different from those of the OP ... by this point in the thread, no one (except the OP) can claim to know anything about how the ATM idea which is the topic of that thread addresses the CMB.
More generally, one of the most frustrating things about discussions in the ATM section - well, to me anyway - is the maddening imprecision! Words which
should have clear, straight-forward meanings are used in strange and idiosyncratic ways; sometimes the vagueness and strangeness is obvious, sometimes it only becomes apparent after pages of 'talking past each other'. Your post #86 seems to take for granted that the ATM idea being discussed in the thread is related to other ATM ideas ... solely because you think some key words are being used in the same way. However, I think it will become clear that the OP's meanings are quite different, possibly radically so.
Or, expressed differently, instead of trying to understand what the ATM idea actually is, you are trying to force it to be like other ATM ideas (ideas which most definitely are NOT the topic of the thread).