"Also you still don't seem to be able to agree whether there should be a flame under the LEM or not?"

Various hoax proponents allege that the fact that there is no flame visible under the LM during ascent from the lunar surface is suspicious and suggests a hoax.

It is pointed out that the fact that their is no flame visible under the LM is not suspicious because the propellants used create little or no visible flame in a vacuum.

Hoax proponent then thinks by showing evidence of a flame proves debunkers wrong there-by proving the whole thing was a hoax?

Er, okay.

Anyway, it looks to me like sparks from the pyrotechnic bolts blowing and debris being blown around by the ascent engine, not a flame from the engine. WHere about in the video is the flame supposed to be visible?