I'll be going thru your post in another thread and commenting on those pointe there, but I can hopefully knock off a few of these here.
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Howdy!
Thanks again to all for answering my last batch of questions! I'm sure this has got to be annoying for some of you, and I'm sure that a few of you have probably answered these questions time and time again, so I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your patience!
I did pick up a Meade 2x Barlow this afternoon...works great with the 25mm lense, but was a little blurry with the 9mm...on the other hand it's not exactly a crystal clear night either...kinda dodgin clouds as I go! With that said tonight, we were able to see the rings of Saturn! WOOHOO! ROCK & ROLL! Also with the Barlow and the 25mm we were able to see the bands on Jupiter (and 3 moons tonight...Ganymede was hiding LOL).
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A 2x barlow and a 9mm eyepiece gives you an effective 4.5mm eyepiece, which if I recall from the other post is right at the ragged edge of max recommended magnification for that scope, which means you're on the ragged edge of best resolution. Any degradation of viewing conditions is gonna blur out your view. Understandable that things looked a tad blurry. Were things sharper with the 9mm by itself? If so, a plain 5mm or 6mm eyepiece might be your best bet with this one.
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I started playin with the Autostar a little tonight. Still have to figure out how to do the alternate alignment methodes as the "Easy" alignment went looking for Sirius...which is on the other side of my house (LOL). I was able to get it to track Jupiter tho...tracked very nicely. I did notice at higher zoom levels, that there was some vibration that was noticable from the motors. I found a good Meade specific forum and will be asking them if they have any suggestions for that.
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Excellent on the Meade specific forum. They'll be the ones to answer your question on the nuts'n'bolts of your scope. If it wasn't the one at Yahoo, might I suggest that also? Go to
http://groups.yahoo.com/ and do a keyword search for "Meade telescopes" -- you'll get a list of maybe 30 different Meade discussion groups.
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Anyways, on to the questions!
First I need a couple of definitions from that my first newbies questions post explained...
"Eye Relief"...I've seen this mentioned in a few places, but have no idea what it means.
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That's the comfortable viewing distance from the eyepiece to your eyeball. Short eye relief means ya gotta get up real close, otherwise the image focuses somewhere other than your optic plane and you don't see anythng. Also, short eye relief increases the odds you'll get poked in the eye if you bump the scope while squinting into it...
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"Plossl"....huh??? Sounds like something I do after eating too many tacos! LOL!
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Here's the definition of various eyepiece names from the Orion website
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Ok, this next quesion may sound a little strange...are there any black holes or nebula around the vacinity of Jupiter?
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Short answer, no. You wouldn't be able to see a black hole anyway. Nebula? There might have been one behind the planet a long way away, but Jupiter's brightness would have washed out any chance of you seeing it. Let's continue -- I think this will be answered a tad further down.
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I was playin with the Barlow with the 9mm and was tryin to get things focused. My view finder is still a little out of whack with the scope, so I had lost Jupiter for a moment while I was lookin. While trying to focus, I found this section out there that basically looked like a dark black "blob". Now, I'm not sure if I actually saw something or if it was something stupid like condensation on the lens, mirror, etc...it was getting quite cold outside and I can only hold my breath for so long! LOL! I haven't seen anything like that in my astronomy software, so I'm leaning towards some kind of anamoly with the scope where I had it focused. This leads me to my next question...
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I do believe you were looking thru a bit of fog, either on the eyepiece or the objective. Don't breathe on things (admittedly tough to do sometimes), and it ought to go away in a minute or two. You may GENTLY wipe an eyepiece to clean fog off, but NEVER wipe a mirror. Let's continue on for why.
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Lens and mirror care/cleaning...
Yes, I know keep the dust caps on whenever I'm not using the scope...been doing photography work long enough to know that. Are there any special considerations I should know about when cleaning the lenses and espeically the mirror? I know sooner or later its gonna aquire -at least- a little dust...beween my house being quite dusty, have 4 cats and 3 dogs and living about a mile from a steel mill, its inevidable that this thing is gonna collect some dirt along the way. I -assume- one would use lens paper to clean this all with and I'm sure that great care should be taken when it comes time to clean the mirror...anything else I should know about?
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The danger in cleaning mirrors lies in how easily they can be scratched. They are 'first surface' mirrors -- that is, the reflective coating is right there on top of the glass, with no protection. The mirror in the bathroom is a 'second surface' mirror -- the silvering is on the back, and the light goes thru the glass to the reflective surface and back out thru the glass again to get to you. Fine for protection against the errant blob of shaving cream, but bad for most efficient transmission of light and optical qualities...but then, your face isn't light years away...
Keep your mirror protected, and you may literally go years without having to do a cleaning. It takes LARGE amounts of dust to noticeably degrade the image through a mirror. You are liable to do more damage in cleaning than the dust does by just sitting there.
When in doubt, follow manufacturer's recommendations.
This is a good subject for the Meade discussion groups you found.
That being said...a Google search for 'telescope mirror cleaning' and 'telescope eyepiece cleaning' will get you lots of information. This subject you should read about intensely before even thinking about attempting a cleaning. One wrong move, and you have a rather expensive clothes hanger stand...
Sample mirror cleaning page
Sample eyepiece cleaning page
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Latitude & Longitude question...
I went to a website called Geocode and entered my address in so I could get my exact lat & log and the results came up with two different sets of numbers..."decimal degrees" and "deg:min:sec" ...which set of numbers is more commonly used (i.e. which set should I use as reference for my scope)? Degrees, hours, minutes, right ascention...this is getting a little confusing!
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Your scope's go-to operating manual should give you which format your location needs to be in. Make sure you actually do need this information -- don't overwhelm yourself with minutiae...
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Compass question...
This may sound like another dumb one, so please bear with me! I was able to acquire a half way decent compass this week...its an automobile compass, buts its a nicer one (found it laying next to a Taco Bell drive thru!). It has calibrations on it and I have it set based on the position of my house, which again according to the maps I looked at, seems to be pefectly square to North. Now, according the the instructions for this unit which I found online, the reason it has calibrations is because car engines create eletro-magnetic fields (makes sense...alternator's etc). I'm planning in the next week or two, weather permitting, to head out to a friends house, who is a little outside of the city limits (I'm right smack dab in the middle of serious light pollution here at my house), so a compass seems like a handy thing to have for these types of outtings :-). Also, later this year when the weather warms up, I/we are planning on heading out to my folk's camper (private campground out in the middle of nowhere), so again a compass seems like it will be handy for setting up and initializing the scope. My question is...are there any other type of electromagnetic fields that I should know about? My friend does live near some high tension power lines...will this cause the compass to go all wonky? If all else fails, I've learned how to recognise Polaris, but I also know that its not "exactly" North...close, but not precise.
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Well, a compass that jumps out of someone's car and waits for you to find it can't be that bad a deal...

The high tension lines shouldn't cause that much of a problem if any at all...and for your goto scope setup, Polaris is fine -- it's less than a degree off being straight north. That's well within the limits of error for a goto setup. If you're just looking for a 'general' north to line things up with before doing the two-star alignment of the goto, Polaris is just fine. H3ll, the general direction indicated by the moss on a tree trunk would probably work too...
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Weather...
Over the last few days, I've come to understand why many serious astronomers have a colladeral interest in meteorology as well! LOL!!! For me at the moment, this isn't a serious concern...beyond knowing when the sky is going to be clear, but just for references sake, can anyone suggest a website that has some definations on weather terminology...stuff like Stratus clouds, cumulous clouds, etc.?
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I'd suggest a Google or the like search for a beginner's weather lesson...after all, does it really matter if it's cirrus or cumulostratus clouds that are preventing you from seeing Alpheratz? A general familiarity with the weather isn't a bad idea, but is not really a requirement for enjoying the stars...again, don't let yourself be overwhelmed by information.
A nice quickie tool to help determine how things will be overnight is
The Clear Sky Clock
Here's the Ohio list.
Here's the one for Cleveland, complete with reading instructions
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Aloyone...
This one isn't a big deal either...just another curiousity. While looking around this eve with the scope, we found the star Aloyone (at least I think that was it) and its surrounding stars and my wife commented that it looked like a "tea cup with a spoon hanging on the side". I know I've heard this referenced before, but I simply can not remember where or in regards to what...does anyone have any info on this? The star was off to the right and little up from the constillation Orion.
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Alcyone is one of the stars of the Pleiades (M45, if I recall off the top of my pointy little head). Off to the right and a little up from Orion? Kinda reddish looking? That's Aldebaran, the eye of Taurus the Bull. The Pleiades are a cluster that's further up and to the right from Orion.
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Okies...I think thats all for tonight (hehehehe). I do have some Meade specific questions, but I'll bring those up on the Meade forum I found on Astronomy.net. As always, thank you tons for the info, wisdom, expeience and patience! BTW, I did take a look thru some of the other stuff on this website earlier today...some neat stuff :-). I may have a question about "collimation" later tomorrow...I'm gonna check the mirrow alignment tomorrow during the day time as I think that could be one of the reasons I'm having such a problem aligning the viewfinder (even though the view finder is just a pain to align)...I never really checked it when I set up the scope.
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Mirror alignment has to do with how well the image comes through. Finder alignment has to do with pointing it in the same direction as the main scope. They are not related. DO NOT screw with your mirror alignment yet. You are asking for major league headaches at this very early date.
Mirror alignment = collimation. It's too early in the game to be playing with this for you. I'd suggest finding someone who is very familiar with collimation procedures to lead you through it the first time or three. Incidentally, proper collimation may very well require you to purchase a few tools specific to the task.