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Old 24-June-2004, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by snowflakeuniverse
Hi genebujold

You said the following

”You take a stopwatch, calibrate it severely so it's accurate, then take another stopwatch, do the same, then active and stop both at precisely the same time after enough time has lapsed to be useful.

How fast is time?

Yep - you got it!

Precisely one second per second!!!

Ever heard of a "dimensionless quantity," before? Bottom line, it means "you can't measure time." “


Now that I know you “can’t measure time” I know that I will not ever ask you what time it is.

All measures of time are based upon oscillating processes. Once one process is picked to represent an interval of time (Such as the atomic processes of a Cesium Clock), this process can be used to coordinate other oscillating processes.

Most all “dimensionless quantities” actually include time in the physical process yielding the expression but it is only because time is not relevant to the problem the dimension of time is ignored. Strain is an example of a “dimensionless quantity” (change in length/ length) and in most calculations involving stain, the time involved in which the strain is induced is not included.

You also said,
By the way, "perspectives of God" approach won't wash because it assumes it's outside/beyond the universe against which all measures are based.

This in not an accurate description of my model. The “perspective of God” approach allows the observation of relationships that are locally unobservable. The “perspective of God” in my model is really a description of reality that is historically based. By looking to the past, the relationships of the “unobserved” dimensions are revealed.

In your second posting you said.
One cannot measure anything as snowflake has described.

This is your opinion. The fact that the proposed model predicts Newton’s Laws of Gravity, predicts that the effect of gravity varies as a function of Cosmic or Absolute time, (as believed by Dirac and Gamow), negates the need for dark matter, resolves inconsistencies in cosmology and offers a physical explanation for quantum effects, indicates that it may very well be possible to measure things as I have described.

(Note Dirac and Gamow never derived a stable geometric model, I have.)


Snowflake
You're missing the point, snowflake - if one point of the spring is stretched, all points of the spring are stretched, including those which you conveniently reference your criteria.

But I do not belive the variances in our backyard are universally propogated. Therefore, I believe there are extra-milkyway variances far beyond our comprehension at this point. The problem is, the local variances induced by the intergalactic variances are less than the level of our resolution, thus we don't see them. Time will tell, however, as our experiments become ever more sophisticated and capable of measuring even the most minute differences.