The original topic was "A plea for a change in nomenclature.
http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/vi...009&forum=3&26

from the luanr conspiracy forum.

Although it was only meant to illustrate an opposing viewpoint to the point of that thread. It got off topic by others opposing details of what was only meant to be an illustration. Further illustration was supplied by me to that thread untill it was mentioned that I had hijacked that thread. So I moved it here as an away from the main stream topic.