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Old 30-August-2002, 11:34 PM
DTdNav DTdNav is offline
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Hello all!

This is my first time on a message board and I am very excited about the prospect of holding rational and enlightening discussions with courteous and intelligent participants. Other sites seem to be nothing but forums for rude and insensitive bores, that's why this is my first time doing this.

Anyway, I hope to be able to contribute a little to the topics as well as learn a great deal from the fellow readers.

As for Planet X, I am definitely one who does NOT believe that it exists. It sounds way too much like an old Sci-Fi movie I saw as a kid. The idea is not new and nothing I've heard about it so far adds to the already tired story.

To XoFFoX: Using unproven, multi-demensional, new-age arguments certainly do not help. The reason scientists reject unproven, unduplicable, and untestable data is because long ago it was realized that the human mind is capable of manufacturing incredibly complex psuedo-realities (subjectivity) that must be removed before the objective (unatainable in its pure form) truth can be approached. Notice that I said unatainable objective truth. The closest that humans have come to this is through pure mathematics. Next best is physics which is mostly mathematics. The further away we get from pure math, the more subjectivity is likely to creep in. And creep it does.

Highest up the ladder away from math we approach religion. Pure subjective thought, while not useless for us poor humans to keep sane while living life, is not useful when trying to observe the objective rules of how the universe works. If you can simply wave your hand, or think of change to change the outcome of any experiment, then what is the point of doing the experiment? Observable phenomena must be observable to anyone who can accurately reproduce the conditions for it to be accepted. If you think that what you dreamt last night has any relevance to me and the world I live in, you must produce some extaordinary evidence to back up the claim. I cannot and will not tell you that you are wrong about your notions of cosmology and physics, but I will tell you that they smack of religion.

Blaming the establishment for supression of revolutionary ideas is an old tactic of those who prey on the credulous. If you have produced a working anti-gravity machine and can make a car run efficiently on water, then you need to apply for the million dollar prize being offered by the James Randi Education Foundation. If you are a starving musician I'm sure it could come in handy. I think it's mainly reserved for anyone who can prove that they have phsychic or paranormal abilities, but maybe they have room for Earthshaking inventions too.

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