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Originally Posted by Jerry
But the great galaxy surveys support the thesis there are periodic effects in the quasar population that can be badly misconstrued as evident of a geocentric universe.
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I disagree entirely. Tell me where your periodicity is
here.
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There is a family of concentric observations that is completely supported by this expanded body of evidence:
The large studies have verified that when quasars are grouped by morphological type (AGN, RLBB, RQNB…) the distribution, (in types by redshift), peak in concentric intervals at redshifts between z ~ 0.8 and 2.0.
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Cite? Sloan data? 2dF? What are you using to back this up?
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This explanation makes more sense to me than the supposition that seven billion years after a ‘Big Bang’ event, a population of quasars gradually peaked, then disappeared completely.
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Why?
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I am not saying this is the way it is, but this is an extreme example of what could be happening. We do not understand the nature of QSOs with enough certainty to say otherwise.
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You've got to be kidding me. You're saying that the uniform distribution of quasars is evidence for correlation with galaxies?
I find this very hard to understand.
Imagine if I said that green m&ms in a jar tended to hang out near red m&ms. You could only see about a few hundred m&ms total and were able to see some examples of this group clumping.
The incredulous argued that you were conveniently seeing clumping and then when the incredulous gave you a picture of a much larger portion of the jar and pointed out that the distributions were uncorrelated you suddenly claimed that it was this very "uncorrelated" effect that you would expect on a large scale if there was an association.
I find this very hard to accept.
Of course, if you disagree with redshift-distance relationship, you can do whatever you please, I guess.
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The controversy is very much alive,
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Not in the community it isn't.
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and as you have already found in your discussion with Dgruss, the numbers can still be interpreted in a variety of ways. The search is just beginning.
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I would point out that there was an agreed upon test with 2dF survey to look for quasar-galaxy correlations. Arp and his cohorts agreed to the test and it came back completely uncorrelated. Yet no one who agreed to the test beforehand would accept the results.
I find that to be problematic indeed.