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Old 08-November-2004, 04:53 PM
The Rusty Lander The Rusty Lander is offline
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Well Jay, I've done a double-take on that show and what you to prove there was only one light source. Yes, you did prove there was probably only one light source (if there had been more wouldn't have there been some double or multiple-direction shadows of the same object?) but, as the same time, you also inadvertantly helped prove the HBer's case for them.

Firstly, you have demonstrated (to me in any case) the reason for the different-angled shadows is not that there is only one light source (this has been a bad assumption made by HBers) but rather the proximity of the source. The articifial studio light you used was a very short distance away (just a few feet or perhaps a bit more? - enlighten me) thus making shadowing very sensitive to where any particular object is in relation to the angle and distance of the light source. On the other hand, the "real" photos are supposed to have been taken with only one light source millions of miles away. So there is certainly not going to be the same sensitivity of each object to the angle and distance to the sun. Therefore your experiment in this matter is invalid and null-and-void because you didn't really recreate the conditions which the moon shots were supposed to have been taken in - one light source millions of miles away.

The same applies to all the other things you showed - the reflection of light bouncing off the surface, why the flag is "lit up" on both sides, the quality of taking the photos themselves - in fact, what you've actually proved Jay, is just how it could have all been done artificially since that is exactly what you did yourself. The quality of the photos you produced look very close (from what we could see) to what the "real" moon shots photos look like!

To prove the shadow business at least, you should have set up all the same stuff during the day (as well as? or instead of?) with only the sun as your light source and taken some photos and then we could see how the shadows behaved which would have given a fairer assessment of what you were trying to prove.

Jay, I hope that leg isn't going to take too much strain from all that limping around you're going to be doing since you appear to have well and truly shot yourself in the foot with this one!
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