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Old 20-November-2004, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ComputerTech
I never claimed you could not fake a washer spinning in space, but the STS video is not a washer spinning in space.
Really? How do you know this? Given the amount of debris that exists around manned satellites, the likelihood of the object being debris is high - especially as debris is frequently and unambiguously seen in other footage of manned space operations.

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There are several things wrong with the experiment.

#1.) The size of the STS object is unknown. In order to fit you're hypothesis a lot is assumed including this.
Pffffft! An accusation that can equally be levelled against you. You assume a large object far away. We assume a small object closer. Both are possible. One is far more likely.

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#2.) The rotation or spinning of the object is assumed. Another assumption. Notice how debunker's can assume and make unsubstanciated claims without evidence? If I do that, it's considered another woo-woo tactic.
Piffle. Axial rotation is the norm in space, not the exception. Take any object at random floating in space and the odds are extremely high that the object will have some degree of rotation.

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#3.) The assumption that this object needs the sun to shine. I've never been able to find any information on this video indicating the direction of the sun. If it's at night or day?
What do you think is illuminating the solar panel also visible in the clip. Glow-worms?

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In order to accurately say this is a reflected object spinning in space, you would need to know many facts. The size of object, in relation to hubble. The direction of, or if there was a sun angle. Weather or not the object can be proven to be spinning.
See, Robbie, you really need to learn the meaning of 'parsimony'. You see a bog-ordinary crater with an interesting floor shadow and think that there is a collapsed alien structure at the bottom of it. You see a mountain peak disappear from the edge of a cropped picture and excitedly question what sort of lunar structure could be mobile. Yet there is so much around us that should really be generating your excitement - if only you invested as much time in those things as you do in this nonsense.....

There are countless examples in footage of debris in space spinning and catching the sunlight as it does so. Your example looks entirely consistent with those. We cannot prove what the object is in the mpeg you provided, any more than you can. However, given a choice between spinning debris (i.e. a common and demonstrable occurrence) and an alien spacecraft (for which there is no evidence whatsoever), parsimony suggests the former is vastly more likely.
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