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Old 19-December-2004, 09:30 PM
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The problem with the gyros is known to be radiation affecting the circuitry.
The problem with this answer is that it does not explain why the failures were a periodic function of closest approach: why did the probe clam up every time it came into 'closest approach' with both Io and Europia? The electromagnetic disturbance level was high near Io, but not Europia.

Reading through the litany of Galileo events, NASA offered at least three seemingly unrelated reasons the probe clammed up during closest approach. Since I do not know the exact set of diagnostics used by NASA, I can only speculate, but there are several options.

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...the gyros would not behave as anticipated, the moment of inertial would be thrown off….
It would make no difference (your "inertial field"). A rotating mass orientation sensing gyro would still have mass and would still function as expected. Even a change in the mass of the gyro wouldn't change anything...
This is true, if you are using conventional physics, but I am not. Near the earth, the behavior of a gyroscope is highly predictable because we never see the effect of changing inertia capacity of a spinning system – we cannot significantly alter the inertial capacity this close to the Sun. But near Saturn, so far from the dominating inertial effects of the Sun, Inertial varience is much greater relative to the mass of the system.

On closest approach to the moons, the inertial capacity of the system changes significantly, and this is as if the mass of each atom increases slightly. As a result, the moment of inertia of the gyroscopes spinning at angles neither perpendicular nor tangent to the plane of the moon suffer differential inertia effects.

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The piezo-electric effect is a measurable charge and voltage induced by putting pressure on certain types of crystals, usually silicates. Likewise applying a voltage to a crystal will cause it to move, and if the voltage is applied at the resonant frequency of the crystal, it will vibrate. Since no other electric field effects are involved in this motion, in my opinion, …it is reasonable to assign this motion to an interaction with the gravitational tensors of the crystals.
What is that supposed to mean? Gravity has nothing to do with it.
I think gravitationally transferred energy can be either directly or indirectly coupled to electromagnetic tensors. This is not a critical point in our discussion of the Huygen mission, but it does explain such things as earthquakes causing ionosphere disturbances, turbulence, gamma rays and other high-energy cosmic events. Of course this is highly speculative, and should be discussed on ATM Threads. I will open one, in a couple days and address this and the other issues contested by Papageno - I can't keep up with him :-k

Meanwhile, watch, enjoy, and wait: What is the fate of Huygen?.
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