sheepkiller,

welcome to the board. BTW, while I agree in general with your assessment, you might want to moderate some of the terms used, as they are leaning towards the ad hominem at times, and Dr. Phil does his best to keep the board polite.

Yes, we have some real go-arounds with people whose "investigative skills are limited to finding their TV remote under the couch cushion" (as JayUtah put it); for instance, there have been truly epic encounters with some Apollo deniers. Such exchanges are always illuminating; I for one usually learn things myself. Such is the breadth of collective expertise of BABB regulars.

BTW, firefighters have a term for stupid people: "job security".