I thought BABBers were supposed to say something like "go to talk-origins." or some such... :wink: Minefield indeed.

I'd like to have total faith, however I always find myself lacking. Organized religion is a sham. It served its purpose when goverment couldn't handle the masses. Awe and beauty exist all around us, currently without explanation. Caral Sagan really tried to be an unbiased observer of human nature.

It's still amazing that a universe could come into existance, muck around for about 10 billion years, and produce neat chemical reactions (that I 'believe' are inevitable), and as a happy by-product, study itself.

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Feynman
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Science is a way of trying not to fool yourself. The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool.

Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt.