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Old 18-June-2005, 04:47 AM
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Yes Virginia, There Is a Universe. (Part Six--Justify Yourself)
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Originally Posted by Richard J. Hanak
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Originally Posted by Celestial Mechanic
How do you propose to "Correct and make reasonable" the concept of universe? What benefits will accrue to us from "abandoning" the idea of the universe? If we "abandon" the idea of a universe and of said universe having properties and a history, we can also abandon any idea of asking about its origins. Is that part of your agenda? Why is the concept of a universe so offensive to you that you periodically start threads on this topic, not to mention write books about it?
The intent of this thread, as its title indicates, is to explore whether or not the universe idea is justifiable. If the intent were broadened to include all aspects of the universe idea, it would soon be too lengthy and unwieldy for a bulletin board thread. Therefore, I will not answer CM's questions in detail. I will, however, present my immediate observations about CM's questions.

If I could correct and make reasonable the concept of universe, then it would not have to be abandoned. Therefore we can, for the moment, skip questions of abandonment and go to CM's last question. My threads about tides, red shift, inertia, and centrifugal force were not motivated by any offensiveness of those ideas. The concept of universe is not offensive to me. I do not understand why CM assumes that it is.
"Maybe not offensive, but not justified, as the title of this thread indicates. Almost every one of the threads RJH started ultimately mentioned his book The Universe on Trial and/or had a link to a website he used to have."

"He didn't really answer any of your questions," Virginia noted.

"No, he didn't. He really does think that the concept of a universe is not justified. And if he is correct then it must be abandoned. Although he will not tell us in this thread or any other what he intends to replace that poor universe that he put on trial with. If one Googles on 'Richard J. Hanak' and looks at some of the pages, one will see as the subtitle to one of his books, 'The Return to Absolutivity'."

"Absolutivity? What is that?"

"Think about some of the other 'ivity' words that you know of."

"Creativity, activity, relativity?"

"Yes, Virginia, relativity. 'Absolutivity' seems to be a made-up word meant to stand in opposition to relativity. And if you look through this threads you will see many, many misconceptions about physics that our comments and links have not been able to dispel. But there is still hope!"
To be continued...
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