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We know the mass of the sun by applying Newton's Laws of motion. From there, the average density can be calculated as PatKelley mentioned above. The average density must remain the same, whether it is the "gas" model or not. However, if the sun had a solid surface the interior density would have to be even lower than normally assumed. |
Then so be it. You can't however determine density until you understand thicknesses of various layers. |
The average density has been determined. Are you saying there is a thin solid layer over a gaseous interior?
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The sun glows because of the blackbody temperature at the surface. Sunspots glow too at a somewhat lower temperature. They are darker but they are far from dark.
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Huh? They are VERY dark to the naked eye. |
Probably because you destroyed your retina. Seriously, this is basic astronomy. You can't look at the sun with the naked eye for more than an instant without damaging the eye and you certainly can't identify sunspots that way. You have to use a filter or other method to reduce the intensity of the light. Sunspots only appear dark through a filter because they are relatively darker than the rest of the surface. From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunspot
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A sunspot is a region on the Sun's surface (photosphere) that is marked by a lower temperature than its surroundings, and intense magnetic activity. Although they are blindingly bright, at temperatures of roughly 5000 K, the contrast with the surrounding material at some 6000 K leaves them clearly visible as dark spots. Interestingly, if they were isolated from the surrounding photosphere they would be brighter than an electric arc.
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Originally Posted by Michael Mozina
They have other types of photons flowing through them of course, but in that region, the visible light simply disapears, and we can see highly defined "sides" to this "layer" of "penumbral filaments". What the deal with the BLACK hole in just these specific locations, and along the sides of the penumbral filament layer?
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Different types of photons? What are you talking about? And, of course, the visible light does not disapear in a sunspot.
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The interaction of the solar magnetic fields slows convection to the surface so the area in a sunspot is somewhat cooler than elsewhere.
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Even if it were "cooler", it should not be SO cold that NOTHING shines from that spot, but shines right around the edges like that.
My explanation was MUCH simpler, and I'll just stick to the Occum's razor concept when we have competing idea. |
Uh, right. A solid surface and different photons. Oh, and black hole sunspots - which clearly doesn't match reality. Much simpler.
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I still haven't heard a logical explantation as to why the earth and venus and mars are full of heavy materials, but somehow the sun is imunne. That doesn't make much sense of you ask me.
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And as said previously, the sun does have these elements, but the percentages are different because it didn't form the same way.
Anyway, I would suggest you read some basic astronomy books. It is clear that you have some fundamental misunderstandings on this subject.