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Old 04-July-2005, 11:36 AM
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What makes it go black in the center of the sunspot as it relates to visible light? Why would a 1000K difference result in a completely BLACK (visible light) sunspot? What's "radiating" visible light? Specifically what molecules are involved? What makes it reform a shiny layer again? Why do we see "sides" along the penumbral filaments?
In order: It doesn't. It isn't. The same gas as everywhere else on the sun. See the list.
Go to my website again and go to the sunquake page for me and explain the PENUMBRA and UMBRA part of the top photo on that page. Why is the penumbra LIT, and why is the UMBRA NOT LIT visibibly?
I've had about enough of this. The conversation has gone much like this:
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Michael Mozina: Why is a sunspot dark?

Me: It isn't. The temperature is lower and it isn't as bright. Here are some references.

Michael Mozina: But look at this picture. Why is it dark?

Me: That is an artifact of the viewing method. It is only dark by comparison.

Michael Mozina: Yes, but the umbra isn't lit! Why is that?
I'll leave you with two references on measuring sunspot temperature, and then I'm done with this. Here is a class exercise on measuring sunspot temperature. Look at section 6.1 and following sections:

http://www.physics.hmc.edu/faculty/e.../labs/lab2.pdf

Here is an article on detailed sunspot temperature mapping.

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The fact you can't adequately explain the pattern of missing penumbral filaments in that top photo of the sunquakes page, and the fact you've never offered ANY sort of alternative explantion to ANY of the material I presented says volumes. I know what I'm up against, and it's pure myth and self righteous nonsense. What I presented was based on 21st century technology and pure observation. I've offered a WORKING model that has predictive capabilities and explanative capabilities. You can't even explain a sunspot adequately, and the reason for the UMBRA in particular, but you'll act all smug anyway. Go figure.
What you think of me is irrelevent. You have repeatedly ignored well established fact and stated unsupported assertions. Your material will be judged on its scientific merits and it is failing at a very basic level.