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Old 05-July-2005, 09:32 PM
Michael Mozina Michael Mozina is offline
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Originally Posted by Van Rijn
I've already presented evidence that hydrogen and helium dominate.
As far as raw spectral data, nobody claimed otherwise. As far as INTERPRETING that data, I cited Dr. Oliver Manuel's work to demonstrate that a SIMPLISTIC notion of trying to assertain the makeup of the sun based strictly on photon count was not scientifically tenable.

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In any event, you are the one making the claim. What is your evidence that the sun contains large amounts of "ferrite," silicon, and neon?
The work of Dr. Oliver Manuel, the SERTS data, the satelllite evidence and the general rediculaceness of trying to suggest that comets which are iron rich are not the primary building blocks of suns. What data do you have that PROVES that no ferrite layer exists again?

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You may have an alternate explanation, but if you do understand the subject, you should know how it fits. Please explain it in your own words. It has been pretty well spelled out in other entries and links in this thread anyway.
A very SIMPLISTIC concept is "spelled out" in these links, but no correlation between these SIMPLISTIC ideas and observed evidence has been established. Please explain the BLACK areas of the video and photo I presented and THEN we can discuss whether the notion of black body radiation applies to the sun as it relates to the visible photosphere.

[quote]Why should they exceed "outer" temps?[quote]

Gravity. Where is the nuclear fussion happening again? Isn't that "hot"?

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Please explain why all the provided references that demonstrate that these "inner areas" do exactly this are wrong, or retract this assertion.
I just posted a sunspot photo and a video of a sunspot. What more would you like? Do you observe the black part being a distinctly different color than the white part, yes or no? Do you see the flare on the layer of the phenumbral filaments, yes or no? Explain this FLARE to me using "black body" explanations again. Explain that BLACK part again using black body explanations and include the fusion part going on in the core. Where is the light from all that heat as it relates to that sunspot?

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So in addition to your solid sun proposal, are you also proposing an alternate gravity "theory"? What is this proposal exactly and what evidence do you have for it? Do you agree that mainstream theory does not allow for a solid sun?
I'm only going to tackle one problem at a time, but I've seen somone post the math that shows a that gravity can be shown to be a function of acceleration. When I find that work again, I'll post a link on my website. Until then, let's stick with the evidence I've already presented.

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So in addition you are also proposing a novel form of long term energy generation? What are the details of this proposal and what is your evidence?
Novel form of energy generation? I'm afraid I don't follow. The first suggestion was the "accepted" idea of how the sun works. The second suggestion is based on the idea that a solid ferrite layer that has a moving inner magnetic core, will likely experience magneto affects during this movement of the magnetic field past the surface features. It's not that "novel" frankly, and it's a well understood part of science. You can find a magneto in your car and in your lawn mower. It's not that novel an idea anymore.

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By the way, do you have relatives in Australia? You remind me of someone ...
No.