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Originally Posted by Michael Mozina
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Originally Posted by Eta C
Have you read the articles Mike? I have. Here are the references
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Yes, I've been their Eta. It is your own strawman you speak of when you talk about me claiming they made mistakes. I did NOT say that, YOU DID! |
Oh Mike, don't be disingenuous. You've been nitpicking at their results since I made my first post in this thread. First you ask how they know the flux comes from the sun. I reply that they know the direction. Then you claim that perhaps they're seeing neutrinos that pass through the sun. And then in your last post you go on to make this statement.
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HOW do they do that EXACTLY? Assuming we know the DIRECTION they travel from, how does that eliminate all other influences again?
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Read the papers. They describe their procedure in some detail. Basically the non-solar neutrino flux is constant, isotropic, and fairly small in comparison to the solar flux. The background is observed and measured at the same time that the solar neutrinos are. The background can then be subtracted out when doing the analysis. In any case, when the main source of events is always coming from the direction of the sun, it's fairly obvious that the sun is that source.
OK, I'll drop the rhetoric and stick to the science. You state that your model predicts the existence of free electrons from fusion at the core. This fusion should also produce neutrinos. What flux does your model predict? Does this prediction correspond to the observed neutrino flux from the sun? If it does not match the flux observed by the SNO, Kamland, and other experiments it is in conflict with observation and is in need of modification or rejection. It's as simple as that. It's no good trying to discredit the SNO observation (which is what you've been doing by nitpicking at their procedure). They, and other experiments, have demonstrated that the neutrinos they observe come from the sun to the satisfaction of other physicists around the world. The value they measure for the total solar neutrino flux is in agreement with the prediction of the standard solar model. Your model, if it is to be considered a viable alternative, must do the same.