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Old 08-July-2005, 07:32 AM
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Regarding:

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/TECH/sp...ron/index.html

This is an article about Oliver Manual's proposal.

From the article:

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"This cannot be correct. I can think of at least half a dozen different lines of evidence that say that the sun is mostly hydrogen and helium with only a tiny amount of iron," said David Hathaway of NASA's Marshal Spaceflight Center in Huntsville, Alabama.

"Solar astronomers don't 'assume' that the sun is mostly hydrogen and helium. We deduce it from several different lines of evidence," he said.

"We measure the composition of the sun's interior using helioseismology, the study of solar oscillations produced by sonic noise within the sun. We find 90 percent hydrogen and 8 percent helium."
I'm limiting the quoted material, but there's more about problems with a supernova origin.

As for:
http://web.umr.edu/~om/AASWashington2002.pdf

This is a very short paper by Oliver Manual. As others have noted, there is the neutrino problem. He is assuming the following layers: Iron core, surounded by silicon, oxygen, carbon, hydrogen/helium surface. It doesn't agree with your model, it doesn't say anything about a solid surface, I don't see mass percentages, or where he addresses the concerns raised here or by solar astronomers.

So your sole source is the opinion of a scientist that has been generally rejected based on evidence?

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Without question, if you wish an HONEST answer to your questions, I am NOT your best resource. If you contact Dr. Manuel, he can BEST explain what you are asking me for from the field of nuclear physics. He's been at this for nearly forty years. I promise you he is a very sweet man and will return your call, and will return your email.
I'm sure he is, but this is your proposal. You wrote the paper and I am talking to you. It is your duty to gather material that will support your proposal, not mine. I'm happy to wait until you've had a chance to contact him for references to answer questions about the percentages of iron, silicon, and neon - what the evidence is, and how it was determined. I'd also like to see his comments on your model.