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Originally Posted by Michael Mozina
What will sound "resonate" from?
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Again, resonating off of what?
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You were talking about the layering forming a resonant cavity, I see no reason for there having to be a resonance for the MDI system to work out.
I guess, though, that the self-regulating nature of the fusion process in the gas/fluid model may very well make the sun oscillate, and that would be a sort of resonance... The MDI uses the waves created by the convection of gas in the sun for its imaging IIRC, no need for this to form a resonant cavity...
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Where do we find this high density layer and how do you know it's not iron and heavy metals?
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Well, Its the photosphere, the visible surface of the sun, not high density as such, but it has a higher density then the layers of the atmosphere above it and so it allows reflection, and since the sunspots are in this layer it affects the waves. since it is visible its rather obvious its not a solid layer
Well, I was thinking of the pressure caused by the radiation and convection of heat from the core pushing outwards and deflecting the wave. But thinking about it, the wave may actually be refracted by the layers under the photosphere. Anyway, the end result is that the waves path curves towards the surface again, where it can be reflected again.
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How do you intend to demonstrate that the grains of sand sounds come from the core?
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Hmmm.. Actually the waves that is detected by the MDI is caused by the turbulence from the convection, that is powered by the heat from the core.
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The identify it as a unique layer. If you go to my observations page, it's the yellow layer. They certainly acknowledge it's there. I've emailed NASA and Lockheed Martin about why they have it floating above the other layers like that and their answers make little sense.
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I see now, I misunderstood what you were referring too, my apologies. Yes, the EIT instrument images three types of ionized iron. Its not really a homogenous layer of iron, though, the iron ions float because it is a low density fluid i expect, you know, a plasma of more than a million degrees is not a very dense thing, I mean, there are stuff that is denser than air here on earth, but that will become less dense if you apply enough energy to make it into a gas...
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Fine, we'll go with fission. It seem more likely an explanation the more I think about it.
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Well... Fusion has a big advantage over fission, light elements are at this time much more abundant in the universe than heavy, meaning there will be much less fuel, and fission gives less energy than fusion for the same mass of fuel, I am not really sure its feasible with a fission star. Of course, I do not deny the possibility that some fission takes place inside a star, but the amount is neglishable relative to fusion.
By the way, I was thinking, could it be possible that the inner planets has less hydrogen because the pressure from the sun in the young solar system caused hydrogen that was not bound with other stuff to be stripped away? Jupiter would likely have enough mass for the gravity to be able to better keep its hydrogen for example. Of course its not likely that the cloud was completely homogenous either though...
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I'm also still pretty sure their are dynamo effects as well.
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Dynamos need relative movement, between the two parts of it, the energy to keep this movement must come from somewhere, so it is not really a power source in itself.
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The hydrogen is created at the calcium/ferrite layer. It has to pass through the neon along with a lot of other flotsum and jetsum.
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I see, so the neon is ionized by colliding with hydrogen and other gasses, that would be possible perhaps, the iron is said to be ionized by collision. But what do you mean by it being created?
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Alright, you've convinced me. I'm switching to fission.
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Its just, I am not sure about the feasibility of fission stars. even if they existed I would think they were rare and short lived compared to fusion stars...
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Whereas I'm pretty sure we have electromagnetic charges affecting the gravitation orbits of the planets in relationship to the sun
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Hmmm.. Well, the sun has a large magnetic field, so a little interaction there would be, I would think...
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The electricity flowing through the iron.
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No... Electricity is a form of energy, but its not a source of energy. But I guess that you mean it is induced by the dynamo effect you were talking about earlier. Still do not see where the independently moving magnetic field would come from though.
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On the other hand you comment about NASA doesn't have iron floating on helium is simply wrong. I suggest you go to Lockheed Martin's website or go to my observations page. I have emailed Dr. SOHO and Lockheed Martin about their laying system and the choice of their layering system. They do acknowledge it's presence, they simply think it defies the laws of gravity.
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Well its not against the laws at all, less dense gasses can float on denser gasses. The iron is ionized and quite hot. Hot fluids are less dense than they would be when colder. Also, seems like the EIT images just show the amount of ionized iron of a specific type and does not show if there is a lot of other gases in the same layers, so if I interpret this correctly it does not indicate that the layer is just iron based.