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Originally Posted by Michael Mozina
Gah! I edited my last post rather than adding a new post. Rats.
Let me explain the relative gravity issue again:
If the universe itself rotates in a universal magnetic field and rotates once every 22 years, this movement would create the condition of producing local grativity conditions that are offset by the centrifical force of the vertical rotation of the universe itself. Within the confines of the local solar system, we we would experience a gravity measurement that is "relative" to the motions involved and yet this vertical movement would have the affect of making the sun "seem" lighter than it actually is when we factor in the rotation in 3D.
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If the universe rotates once every 22 years, can you tell me where the axis is that it rotates about? (It would also be nice to know where you get the figure of 22 years for the rotation period of the universe.)
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As far as the "lensing" issue goes, I still haven't heard a rational reason to believe that a particle with LESS mass will be MORE affected by gravity than one with MORE mass.
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I looked back through the thread to see if I could find anyone claiming that photons bend more than neutrinos, and frankly I couldn't. Can you point to a specific quote for this claim?
Given how you apparently missed VanRijns quote
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Actually, we would expect neutrino lensing. But they are just a bit harder to detect and it misses the point.
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even though you quoted him in the very post where you claimed
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That isn't even logical. Worse however is you folks insisting that neutrinos are NOT lensed, but a massless particle *IS* lensed. The rationalizations around here are simply amazig.
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Anyway, as I'm sure you wouldn't want to be putting forward a strawman argument, I imagine that you should be able to find support for your claim.
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If I have to come up with rational answers that adhere to the known laws of physics, then you folks must also do the same. Whatever forces "bend" the photon, must also bend the neutrino for the very same reason.
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Guess what? That is what we have been saying. It is just that neutrinos are a lot harder to detect than photons, and neutrino detectors typically don't have the anywhere near the same angular resolution as photon detectors so they aren't sensitive to small deflections.
You still won't be able to observe solar gravitational lensing at the earth, however.