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Originally Posted by Eta C
BZZT. wrong answer. The He line at 304 Angstrom represents a temperature of 60,000 K. Again I refer you to the SOHO scientists who presumably know what they're talking about.
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Bzzt. You didn't listen. I have no doubt that the helium layer is 60K degrees and heated by its LOCATION rather than electricity like the iron. Again, your own comments CONDEMNED the NASA model since we would simply not SEE the helium ions at all if this layer was covered by a ferrite layer as your so called "experts" claim.
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To say nothing of the arrogance that treats all of the scientists of the last century or so (with the exception of Manuel, of course) as purveyors of a hidebound orthodoxy who don't recognize what's before their eyes. (I refer the reader to Mike's comments on the scientists at LockMart and at SOHO).
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Another of your famous strawmen. I was quite clear that until this specific generation we simply didn't have the technology to falisify or validate the idea that nothing solid exists beneath the visible photosphere. Its not my fault that MOST of the scientists from the last 400 years didn't have access to 21st century technology. I also made it quite clear that the SCIENTISTS that designed and flew this gear into space are my personal heroes. At worst case I am blaming NASA and some folks at LOCKHEED and a few folks at ESA for not recognizing what they are seeing.
There is no arrogance about it, it is simply observation. Your desire to paint me as the lone ranger of science ignores the fact that solid surface models were also seriously considered prior to this century. What I actually condemn is this myopic viewpoint that ONE and ONLY ONE model should be considered and ONE and ONLY one model can reasonably explain these images. I'm also growing VERY tired of the appeals to authority as though somehow you have to be "special" to see something with your own eyes and interpret it accurately. LOTS Of human beings have this capability besides just folks at NASA. Get over it.
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Electricity as such is not a heat source. It needs to pass through a material and dissapate energy through resistance. Electric currents in the corona are one possible mechanism for heating it. Others that could also contribute are convection transfer from the sun itself and radiant heat transfer as the corona absorbs photons emitted by the sun. As the temperature of the coronal material goes up, different levels of ionization occur. The different lines seen by SOHO come from these different ionizations. The 284 Angstrom line represents iron that has been ionized 14 times (that is fourteen of the 26 electrons removed) that takes a lot of energy, such as that available at a temperature of 2 MK.
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I don't see one thing about your explaination that eliminated my model in any way. Will electricity heat iron to these temps, yes or no? What is your EXPERT opinion? Just yes or no?