This has gone on quite long enough.
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Originally Posted by Mosheh Thezion
THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS: either energy is further applied... as from that outsdie source.... or.. the energy used in the unwinding of matter so to speak, could be predesigned so to speak into the matter itself..
where in.. the original giant nucleon, could develope its spin from energy within its own mass.. as could the supercluster mass, and the galactic mass , and star mass objects..... this is discussed in proposals for the 4th circle rise.. the 12,13,14,15th dimensions.
Of course.. i.e. applied energy to do all of it, yet as i just said, the energy can be seens as from within the formed mass....
in which case.. its 2 circles of applied energy.. and 2 circles of its breakdown into the structure of the universe.
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Mosheh, you've continued to employ meaningless terms like "applied energy" -- you
cannot keep relying upon concepts which you
never even defined. The closest you ever came to providing a specific meaning was
here. Needless to say, that's neither sufficient nor acceptable.
Let's review.
Celestial Mechanic asked you the following:
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One problem with your writing is that you use terms in non-standard ways without giving your definitions. The main examples I have are of "applied energy" and "quality of applied energy". Now in real physics we have kinetic energy and potential energy, and you will see energy identified as to its source such as gravititational energy and electromagnetic energy and rest mass energy, but nothing called "applied energy". Applied to what? And similarly with "quality" of energy. What is this "quality" that energy has? Is there only one "quality"? How do we measure it?
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There is no way to know... all we can do is look at the universe and apply the concepts of a dimensional progression, and as we fit the progression to the evidense, we notice that the evidense will piont to patterns.. and details which then become apparent as having to do with the supposive quality of the applied energy.
And we cannot measure something which exists outside our universe.
We can only look at the result of its actions as surmise ideas about what kind of energy could do it.. as the evidense has laid out.
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This, like most of your other contributions, offers nothing but circular logic mixed with word salad.
You went on to describe in a
later post (emphasis mine):
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well, i can only suppose that if something was able to apply energy and make our universe then it stands to reason that it maybe able to manipulate any number of things and forces from the subatomic to the heavenly..
there really is no way to know.. and its pure conjecture.
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This should send you a
very strong signal about what you've attempted to present here.
When asked for calculations, you've posted statements like
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Your asking for new math.... math based on a dimensional progression which will in one swoop unify all the math systems we know and replace all of them...
i wont be giving you that.
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When
warned by a moderator to provide calculations or anything else substantive in nature to substantiate a claim,
you declined.
When
warned by an administrator not to discuss your ideas on other threads (which you've done repeatedly in the past), you
chose to do so anyway.
The tangental forays here delving into relativistic territory, fusion (and whatever else) are totally unnecessary given that there isn't even a house of cards upon which to base them.
Faultline hit the nail on the head in his post
here; you've been made aware of this by other posters as well,
myself included.
Despite being informed of the numerous problems, gaps, and contradictions in your ideas, you've subsequently attempted to latch on to any number of unrelated topics/discoveries, claiming that they're "evidence" for your model. That's simply not how science works. To be perfectly forthcoming, I don't think you understand what constitutes
evidence, and that's unfortunate.
Tremendous latitude has been granted spanning many threads over the course of months. Unfortunately you've presented enough
Circulus in demonstrando to last us for many more, despite the best, heroic efforts of many knowledgeable members of this community.
We're finished here, as is
Mosheh Thezion's stay on this forum.