Apologies, it took me longer to review and re-open the thread than I'd planned. I will address a number of things here chronologically with one exception: please remember that religious discussions fall outside of this forum's scope. I was sorely tempted to split or remove posts #216 through #240 -- they should have been constructed
much more carefully and on-topic. I will
again quote the
FAQ:
12. Politics & Religion
Due to the contentious nature of these subjects, forum participants are strongly advised to avoid discussing religious and political issues. Please don't begin or contribute to a topic that's merely going to incite or fuel a flame war.
However, the following exceptions apply:
A) Political impact upon space programs, exploration, and science.
B) Focused, polite discussion of concepts such as creationism and "intelligent design" which bear direct relevance to astronomy and science, for the purposes of conversing about and addressing misconceptions.
C) Focused, polite discussion of the difference between astronomy (including cosmology) and religion
Partisan political debate is unwelcome and should be undertaken elsewhere. The same applies to debates purely religious in nature. Likewise, proselytizing will not be allowed. In short, you are allowed to discuss politics and religion within a very limited scope where they affect space and space exploration, astronomy, and science. Nothing more. If you really really need to talk about these topics with someone, take it to email or to another bulletin board.
It is of paramount importance to understand what evolution is as well as what it is not. Evo has nothing to do with religion, morality, Stalin, Hitler, nor the NSDAP. If debate arises again concerning religion vs. morality, any such posts will be deleted and posters formally warned for rules violation. Stay on topic and within the forum guidelines.
Now:
Sticks, the Genesis account has no business being shoehorned into evolution. I realize you're attempting to reconcile issues of faith and science and wish you the best in that regard. However I must say that if you desire to learn about science, evolution included,
please do so by consulting scientific resources,
not those authored by religious apologetics who deliberately misrepresent the subject matter. Spend some time on
Talk Origins and the
NCSE. Perhaps pages like
this may offer further assistance.
Regarding altruism, please see here and here.
Lonewulf, you never should have submitted this post nor the follow-up. I appreciate what you were attempting to convey, as misconceptions abound in such topics, however you went about it in entirely the wrong manner. I'm obligated to suspend your account for 24 hours for violation of civility & decorum rules. This forum is not a place to release aggression nor hurl vitriol at other posters. If you have a disagreement with someone, take it to PM, e-mail, or elsewhere to work it through if desired. If you're weary or ill-tempered, don't post; take a break and come back later. This came as an unforutnate result of the thread straying horribly off-topic and the mod & admin staff being quite busy, so I apologize for the retroactive disciplinary action. The rules still apply, though.
Mike T, a one-week suspension for FAQ violation from posting an anti-religious rant should have sent you a clear signal, but instead you submitted this post -- which is not only incorrect but begging for further disciplinary action. Let me make this perfectly clear: if you do not abide by the forum rules including the section I've reiterated above in this post, you will be permanently banned. Got it?
The thread has been re-opened, and please abide by the conditions expressed above. Know that this topic will be diligently monitored, and proceed wisely.