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Originally Posted by Moonrock
But Russia did not know about the bomb until tests were started - do we agree on that? As long as you realise that Russia only knew through its spies after the tests were started then you’ll start to understand that this boards belief that you cannot keep a secret because thousands of people were involved in the project is incorrect and the Manhattan Project example proves my point.
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No, we do not agree. Soviet agents had infiltrated the program long before the Trinity test. The United States effort to keep the Manhattan project a secret from the Soviets was a failure, and thus, it most certainly does not prove your point.
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Originally Posted by Moonrock
Sir Patrick Moore: When you looked up at the sky, could you actually see the stars and solar corona, inspite of the glare?
Armstrong: We were never able to see the stars from the lunar surface or on the daylight side of the Moon. But I would doubt looking through the optics. I don’t recall during the period of time that we were photographing the solar corona what stars we could see.
Collins: I don’t remember seeing any?
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Armstrong and Collins were both referring to the solar corona photography that occurred while in route to the Moon, since that is what the question was about. They are clearly saying they don’t recall seeing stars while looking through the optics. If Collins later said he could see stars, it is not a contradiction unless his later comment was specifically in reference to the solar corona observations. You are taking a comment about a very specific thing and trying to apply it broadly to the entire mission.
If you ask me if I saw Joe in the elevator and I say no, then I am not contradicting myself if I later say I saw Joe in the lobby. Your question was specifically about the elevator, thus my answer is applicable only in that context. It is invalid for you to conclude I did not see Joe in other parts of the building. Yet this is exactly the type of error you are making in regard to the Collins comment about seeing stars.