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Old 14-March-2003, 09:27 PM
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On 2003-03-14 15:52, A.DIM wrote:
I find it absurd(and a little frightening) for anyone to think the government is incapable of concealing such info
No one said that the government was incapable. We just find it highly implausible and lacking any credibility to say that it happened.

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I mean, we've seen countless artifacts in painting and sculpture,
You don't give credit to human imagination. Truly, do you think that most of the science fiction stories that are written today were inspired by alien encounters? Why can't you allow for human imagination? You think that Hieronymous Bosch's painting The Garden of Earthly Delights is inspired by aliens just because you aren't creative enough to come up with it yourself?

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as well as in "myth," that date back thousands of years describing these beings.
Surely, human beings can't have an imagination or a knowlege of history. Surely not!

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There have been numerous credible individuals who believe the earth must have been, or is being, visited by alien life,
There are numerous credible individuals who believe:

1) Humans don't need food, but can live off of air (breatharians)

2) the sun and the planets go around the Earth (geocentrists)

3) the boogeyman will come to get you

4) fairies are responsible for dew

5) light eminates from the eye.

These are all things people today and over the ages have believed. Should we take them seriously? No. They are contradicted by science. If you want us to take Sitchin seriously, why shouldn't we take all of this nonsense seriously?

I mean, should I worry about Ragnarok?

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we have regular sightings and claims, numbering in the millions per year worldwide.
As I said, 70% are the planet Venus.

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And yet, we dismiss it all as "mass hysteria" or some other "mythological" rubbish.
That's right. There are also lots of stories about a global flood. We don't see scientific evidence for it. Therefore we dismiss it as being a story that should not be taken scientifically literal.

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How can anyone look into that night sky, that universe, and say we know it all and "We are alone"?! Is this species ego-centrism or what?
First thing you've said that I agree with. However, even if we aren't alone, that doesn't mean that aliens are among us or anywhere nearby. Otherwise we'd see them.

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I think the most fundamental problem is rooted in monotheism. Don't get me wrong, I very much believe in The First Source & Center, the one & only Uncaused, The Universal Father or God, if you will, but I believe we were babel-factored long ago and thus our true history obscured.
Funny, I don't have to appeal to this at all to be convinced that the vast majority of UFOs are basically hoaxes, myths, hysteria, or missightings. And furthermore, there hasn't been one confirmed case of a UFO that was determined to be of extraterrestrial intelligent origins.

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It seems we're now on the brink of actually discovering our true heritage and place in the universe which will enable us to become cosmic citizens.
That's true. Through the endeavor of science.

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Right now though, we're still going through "species adolescence." Fantasy? Perhaps.
Some of you may've seen this, but I think it appropriate:
http://www.neilfreer.com/index10.htm
Here's a quote from that site:

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A preliminary caveat: it is fully recognized that some of the sighted UFO’s, reported abductions, encountered “aliens” may
be not alien but human action, technology and human events. This paper focuses only on the actual alien presence, technology
and interactions.
If he was honest he'd point out that the vast majority of sighted UFOs and encounters are human action, technology, and misinterpreted events. In fact, he points to no scientific studies on the subject at all. Sad, sad excuse for an intelligent paper.