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Old 28-February-2006, 02:57 PM
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[Moderator note] this thread was created by splitting posts from the Gravity is a nuclear force thread.

It contains posts discussing Jerry Jensen's ideas on gravity and mass. [/Moderator note]
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Originally Posted by Celestial Mechanic
Well, I've just browsed through this thread and I'm surprised that no one realized this:

When a pion is being exchanged there are three possible combinations:

p+ pi0 n0
p+ pi- p+
n0 pi+ n0 .

The charge of a deuteron is never anything but +e. No oscillating charge, no pull on hydrogen atoms that don't pull back, etc. In short, no conjecture, much less theory. Nothing to see here.
Conceptually there is nothing wrong with Steve's root hypothesis, if you assume the frequency of these oscillations is so high that it is virtually undetectable. Face it: There has to be a mechanism for backing mass/energy into a gravitational field. Particle physicists assume this is the function of the Higgs boson - an animal never detected.

Particle physics has a phenominological history of development: We observed behaviour, then built models that explain the behavior. Eventually the models became so good, they could predict behavior in many cases. But this is no different from the development cycle of epicycles, and may contain fundamental conceptual errors in spite of the success of the methods.

One of the offshoots of Steve's approach (and my own, which is almost identical) is that we should expect field behavior near massive objects that is different from particle solutions. These variations should also be observable, and I think they are: In the acceleration of the solar wind, the Doppler dip of the Pioneer 6 probe, and many other poorly understood phenomenon - such as triboelectric effects.
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