Sorry, Neried, I missed the warning, and it was not unreasonable.
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Originally Posted by Celestial Mechanic
If if walks like a duck and says "AFLAC!!!" like a duck, it's probably a duck. Stephen's idea calls for the charge of a deuteron to oscillate between +e and 0. That sounds like violation of charge conservation to me.
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You and Steven both missed the point:
The sign is irrelevant in an AC or field coupled component: We know there is an energy field coupling – we call this gravity. We know the gravitational force is a small fraction of a basic charge unit. If this is an electronic field, there would only be a magnitude coupling, not a "DC offset".
We also know, from the Hall effect, that the basic charge can be subdivided. What is not known is whether or not the gravitational force is electromagnetic, and whether or not it is related to the vibrational modes of an atomic nucleus. I am willing to argue that gravity is indeed electromagnetic it nature for a lot of reasons.
1) To the first order, gravity follows exactly the same inverse square rule.
2) Planck’s constant was derived using black body radiation. This is important, because it associates the ‘steps’ in the electromagnetic function with experimentally determined energy levels in baryons, leaving open the question of whether or not smaller ‘steps’ could exist if the search for radiating frequencies and fields is not limited to the thermal energy spectrum of baryons. In other words, gravity can only be associated with an electromagnetic field if this field only weakly interacts with matter.
3) Everywhere we look for, and expect to find gravity waves (neutron star binaries, black holes, supernova explosions) we find extremely energetic gamma rays. (This is what would be expected, if a gravitational collapse releases ultra-ultra-high frequency radiation; which is almost immediately reduced to lower observable frequencies through radiation transfer functions with ordinary photons, including microwaves.)
4) If such a field exists, it provides an immediate mechanism for tribo-electric effects, energizing particles in motion regardless of their proximity to other charges. This provides an easy explanation for how the solar wind becomes charged, how lightning originates in isolated clouds, and why earthquakes disturb the ionosphere.
5) The second order effects are rather more complex than simple gravity, and explain why Titan appears, from orbits and fly-by’s, to have a mean density of only ~2g/cc, but has all the hallmarks of a much more dense moon.
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I tried it, remember when I branded your model "the Funhouse Solar System"? We do not see such grotesque distortions in the positions of the planets. And the fact that we do not observe aberrations other than the standard stellar and planetary observations puts fairly stringent limits on this effect.
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Using only GR principles, the solar system is a hall-of-mirrors, and so is the rest of universe. GR should cause a slight focusing of the light from Saturn when the Earth and sun are in exact opposition, intensifying the glory. What is not clear is whether or not GR and glory effects can account for all the brilliance of Saturn during opposition.
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Apples and oranges, Jerry. Two more words for you: glory scattering.
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I am of the opinion, from reading accounts by astronomers of the startling brilliance of Saturn when this rare transition occurred last July, that the glory exceeded all expectations and is difficult to impossible to account for. What I do not know is if these were exaggerated accounts, or if they were ignore the GR effects. I welcome any and all analytical data which can help resolve this..