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Old 09-March-2006, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Nereid
How high would 'the frequency of these oscillations' have to be to be 'virtually undetectable'?This is either trivially true, a question that is well-recognised as something which will come from a unified theory, or nonsense (well, apart from the need to replace 'never' with 'not so far').
How high of frequencies can be detected with scintillation detectors? The deBroglie wavelength of an hydrogen atom is a good jumping off point.
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If it is part of some unification, then wouldn't it be better to focus on the details of that unification, than just a result? After all, without knowing where it comes from, what guidance could this statement have (in terms of ways to find answers)?
Good point, but no, this is not a unification solution - I don't think gravity has 'particle' properties on any scale - gravity is, in this theoretical concept, a chaotic above-the-Wien-limit electromagnetic field that results in a net attraction between masses while at the same time incumbering the motion of objects within this field, especially towards the other.

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And if I'm not mistaken, you have put your alternative ideas up for us to consider, here in the ATM section, at least once before. Time to revive at least one such thread?
These ideas have been developed on this board, basically I have thrown out possible solutions and trimmed out the fat - thrown away what has been falsified. I'm not sure which thread to revive - the 'gravity behaving badly' thread was probably the most complete, but it would take some digging to find it. I started posting on the Bad Astronomy board because I had exhausted local resources available to me - and it has been a fruitful venture.

The prediction about Cassini will be very easy to follow. Likewise, MRO should uncover degenerate harmonics in the gravity solutions of Mars. I wish I knew enough about the Messinger science package to venture some predictions - that is something I will have to look at more closely - Likewise, the ESA Venus project - once again there should be degenerecies in the gravimetric solutions, but opposite the Martian probes in terms of crust-to-central mass distributions. We see this already in the polarized Beuguer gravity anomalies.

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(I'd prefer that we don't hijack this one, discussing Stephen's idea, to discuss yours Jerry).
Steven was taking a pretty bad beating from the CM and not responding. CM took a cut at my physics background too, which is funny. I don't think the right response to fledgling theorists is to take them out at the knees - point them to some useful references or something. Besides, Steve, in my opinion, is on the right track.
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