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Old 15-March-2006, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by granolaeater
Searching for Minerals with only one of the components is quite misleading.

You have to search for minerals with all main ingredients found in the substance and no main ingredient that is not main ingredient of the unknown substance.

And if you look closer on your cited website http://webmineral.com/chemical.shtml you see that all these minerals, that come but remotely close to this requirement, are indeed made of organic compounds.

So I stand by my claim: Substances with this atomic composition are "definitely organic".

99% of the substances atoms are C, H and O atoms.
39% of the substances atoms are H atoms.
32% of the substances atoms are C atoms.
28% of the substances atoms are O atoms.

This composition is simply impossible without covalent C-H bonds. And having covalent C-H bonds means "organic" by definitition.

Of course no one should fall into any misconception here:

1)"Organic" is not exclusive to "mineralic". Organic Minerals do exist as you can see on your cited website http://webmineral.com/chemical.shtml

2)"Organic" does not mean "living". It does not even mean "made by living organisms". The orange haze in Titans atmosphere is organic too, and there is no connection to living organisms.

So yes, if the analysis is right this stuff is "definitely organic". But by no means this means it is "living".
I took the % of each element and looked for those minerals then looked to see what the rest of the composition was to see if any of them fit the rest of the pattern. None did. And the only organic mineral was the guanine. Acetamide is an organic solvent. None of the rest of the minerals listed were organic.

I know the difference between living and organic.

If you are so convinced these elements indicate an organic compound name it. Or name some possibilities.
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