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Old 24-April-2006, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Nereid
Ok, let's set up a (false) dichotomy.

Whatever you can think up, in a darkened cave, through pure thought, we'll call 'philosophy'.

Whatever you can work out, through observation and experiment (plus some inspired math), we'll call 'science'.

In the OP we have words (and the concepts behind them) like 'paradox', 'exist', 'impossible', 'nothing', ...

We also have words like 'matter', 'energy', 'vacuum', 'space', ...

The former are 'philosophy'; the latter 'science'.

Science has delivered PCs, jetliners, vitamin supplements, ... and the three consistencies*

Science also served up the dish called 'quantum theory', with mind-bending weirdness and astonishing precision (the most accurate theory in science, to date).

Five thousand years (or more) of philosophy produced nothing even remotely as weird as quantum theory.

You want to go beyond what can be tested in the lab, or via observations (for example, into the Planck era), using philosophy? No problems, go right ahead! However, when experiments and observations finally get around to giving a handle on the realms you explore with philosophy, don't be surprised if "impossible!" in your philosophy turns out the be "once again, the universe is not only weirder than we can see, but weirder than we can possibly imagine.
I see what you are getting and for a long time I have agreed with the statement that the universe is weirder than we can imagine. If it wasn't so extremely bizarre for us to understand we would have all the answers. Even if we had all the answers or a lot of them I don't think the universe would lose its mystery.
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