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Old 28-April-2006, 07:22 AM
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I would agree with Tim.
There is a general path but nothing is really examined along the way.
I for one would like to concentrate on the sun and ways that a radial electric field could be developed or if that is truly the way the sun is powered(langmuir probe model, etc). The circuit could be different.
From what I understand the radial electric field could be developed from the velocity difference in solar wind particle species.

As far as longevity, I would expect an electric sun to start sooner and outlast a fusion sun. As soon as you have a filament large enough it would pinch to form a sun. And there are plasma pinches that have been mistaken for a star.
Skip iron sun disscussion(Which I think is the only way the ES model will work is to have an iron sun). Fast forward to today.

Neutrinos would be formed by fusion events on the surface. I think there are problems with neutrinos that have mass but I dont know enough.
Evidence was brought up that they are dexcitation events that generate the gammas as opposed to actual fusion events being detected.

If you look at the movies at the TRACE website, you finally begin to understand what fusion really looks like when it takes place as a pinch in a flare.

Deriving an experiment to test some of these hypothesis almost requires tools that we may not have access to so I am trying to take all the observations and distill the things that clearly dont fit.
But what the heck I think I see areas of the EU model that need work so thats what I'm doing.

Unless I have missed something the issue with the EU comet is enough voltage to perfom EDM and jetting. My friends EDM machine will EDM at voltages from 50 to 100 volts. Will the local field provide enough energy or do you need to pipe it in via a ion tail? I would probably assume if there is enough energy(available locally or remotely) then that is the cause of the jets.....

Is there a separate Electric comet thread? Maybe that would be good.
And focus this one on the suns exact power method.

You could probably learn all the essentials of the EU model in the alloted time but I think there are issues with understanding power distribution in the EU model so would they be the correct essentials? So now you have a situation where the model is "dissproved" with out really knowing the true parameters(Michealson-Morley comes to mind).
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