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Originally Posted by turbonium
I thought I'd post the above as it relates to the Pentagon witness who also mentioned the unmistakable smell of cordite. This is also noted by Tog...
For someone to say the blast smelled like cordite was very odd, given how little chance there was it would be used in a bomb, and the fact that they would have to have more than a passing knowledge of cordite to not confuse it with some other, more common, type of explosive.
That cordite is still used has been shown. That the smell of cordite is virtually "unmistakable" for those who first experience it has been shown. I don't say this is "proof" of explosives, based only on a few witness accounts - but it is something that is worthy of consideration in terms of what actually happened.
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And to me, that seems like a stupid mistake for the conspirators to make. If Cordite is being used for naval guns, odds would be good that the Pentagon would have people that could recognize the 'unmistakeable' smell and give away that fact that there was a cordite explosive used. At least better odds than someone on the police and fire crews would.
And that goes to the heart of why I can't understand why there any doubt that a jet liner hit the Pentagon. Even if it wasn't AA77, it surely must have been a 757 to keep te debris consistent. If they find the nose gear of an F-15, there will be uncomfortable questions. If they find some part of ANY aircraft that was NOT a 757, there will be the same questions. There would be no time to remove all traces of the other aricraft before rescue workers arrived, with news crews close behind.
Using a missile or bomb would have a radial blast pattern, I would think. But to account for shearing of the support pillars, wouldn't the charge would have had to radiate out in a cone along a rather thin plane, nearly horizontal to the ground? I wonder if there is any ordinance like that known to exist. If it is not kown, then it would have had to have been developed. Obviously, anyone that developed something like that would recognize that it was used. Since they didn't blow the whistle they must be in on it.
Or it was an ariplane.
BTW, I'm no structural engineer, I could barely spell it in fact, but If I had to guess which had stronger walls, the WTC or the Pentagon, I'd go with B. Pentagon. Final answer. Maybe even strong enough to have folded and shredded the wings into fine enough debris that heat from the burning jet fuel burned them beyond recognition. Ever throw an aluminum can in a camp fire? They can collapse under their own weight. Come to think of it, I've seen beer bottles distort in the heat of a wood fire too.
This goes back to the comment about the pools of molten glss from the melted windows. When I ask this, I'm asking because I honestly don't know: Are the windows at the pentagon, really glass, or are they some type of Bullet/fragment resistant polymer like the type used in gas station cashier cages?