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Old 23-April-2003, 07:02 PM
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I was thinking about that. I quote one paragraph from him and immediately get ten angered replies.
Not too long ago, I brought up the subject here and yet we all still feel compelled to go at it all over again.

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FACT: Film footage taken inside the capsule of ALL Apollo missions, shows a light blue haze, and curvature of Earth through capsule window, when they were supposedly half way to the Moon, and in the blackness of space. This proves that capsule was only in Earth orbit.
Oh, I get it- so you can't see the curvature of Earth or have light reflected onto your spacecraft if you are not orbiting it.
The blue haze issue was rammed down Cosmic Dave's throat numerous times. It the result of scatter due to all sorts of crap on the window. Jay called it New Car Smell. The curvature issue is probably Sibrellian. He's confusing the curvature of Earth with the edge of the outside of the window.

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FACT: Anyone who believes the Moon landings must be "essentially green".
How convincing this fact is. You really showed me the way of truth with that gem of a fact.
The issue with this is that Homer clearly doesn't know the difference between fact and opinion. His insult as proof of his case clearly shows how obnoxious and irrational he is.

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FACT: Earth is 250,000 miles from the Moon, yet reflected sunlight from its surface is strong enough to illuminate the darkness on planet Earth. Anyone hovering above surface would be blinded by the light.
I don't remember the equation for calulating lux or luminosity, but I do remember reading once that the Moon actually provides such little illumination that the sun at Pluto is about 217 times brighter than a fully lit Moon appears to us on Earth. Also, he fails to acknowledge the albedo of the Moon is only around 4%.
The inconvenience of this of course is that we have to argue about Luna's reflectivity in order to make the shadow infilling case. Obviously there is no reason why it can't be at such a level to fulfill both cases, but qualitatively and to the straw men employed by the conspiracists, it sounds as though we're arguing Luna isn't particularly reflective in this case, but very reflective in other cases. They could accuse us of contradiction. A better response would be to point out that Earth is even brighter than Luna and yet we aren't blinded as we walk down the street.

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FACT: Alleged Moon rock is basalt rock found here on Earth. NASA made it radioactive by "baking it" in a radiation oven.If it is genuine Moon rock, then it was brought back by a scoop and return probe.
I like this. Here he is essentially saying "There claims are wrong, but if someone proves they are right, then they are actually lying as to the source of the rocks."
Indeed. This isn't a fact, but merely a statement of the conditions necessary for the conspiracy theory to not be false. He hasn't actually given us any facts, merely possible implications of other facts. He clearly has no clue what a fact is, much less how the scientific method works. Of course, at this point we ask about the nature of a "radiation oven". It sounds like he's saying they put them in an ACME Moonrock Faking Machine.

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FACT: In 1969 computer chips had not been invented. The maximum computer memory was 256k, and this was housed in a large air conditioned building. In 2000 a top of the range computer requires at least 64 Mb of memory to run a simulated Moon landing, and that does not include the memory required to take off again once landed. The computer on board Apollo 11 had 32k memory.
Here this chump gets confused with software needed to run a graphically appealing lunar landing game and the software needed to perform simple calculations to take LMs to the surface. Although the LM computer could not add two numbers, it was not needed to, whereas a simulation of a lunar landing needs to model a LM, all its systems, a landscape, etc.
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We could also point out that his statements about the date of invention of computer chips is wrong. We could also point out that the largest and most powerful computers today are still housed in large air conditioned buildings. Ironically, this is almost cribbed verbatum by Cosmic Dave.
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