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Old 02-June-2006, 07:20 PM
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That is, you haven't provided any evidence that there is a black hole at the center of the dark galaxy.
Obviously this cannot be accomplished yet, however, it certainly can be infered, due to the very fact that they clasified this as a galaxy. Other wise they would have reported that they had found a big glob of ill formed Hydrogen. The rotation curves have been reported to fit MOND better for this and the LSB galaxies. Infering that there is a Massive black hole here (it is a galaxy, right?) makes just as much if not way more sense than...since all the Hydrogen was 'supposedly' spread out by inflation, across the universe, that the galaxies must have formed through some kind of merger process!

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And, for the ghost galaxy and others, you seem to be implying that the shape of the galaxy is dominated by the black hole.
I am more than just implying this. I am showing that when the Naked Singularity goes off, that it is spewing Gamma Radiation and can be seen clear across the universe, randomly across the sky, and at the same time MAKING the massive black hole. That's why I told Cougar, I cheated! I already knew that the massive balck hole was there! In other words, this Dark Matter Galaxy is an absolute prediction of what should appear if my orginal model is correct!

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That's not actually the case. Although the central black hole is pretty massive, it's still a drop in the bucket compared to the rest of a galaxy. The stars orbit their common center of mass.
Grey, You are thinking here about the galaxy after some/most/all it's stars are formed!

I believe it is currently thought that the mass of a galaxy full of Hydrogen would be the same as the mass of a galaxy full of stars. I have asked this before in Q&A and never got a satisfactory answer, but this has to be absoluely wrong. Just think of a galaxy full of only Blue 1st generation stars, now take the same galaxy 10 billion years later...how much more massive is it then after all that metalicity is added??? By the same token, is a galaxy full of Hydrogen I, the same mass as a galaxy full of Hydrogen II???

The other point to this, the massive black holes affect on a cloud of Hydrogen I surrounding it, as it gathers it back in after the burst has never been modeled, because it has never been considered! As I said above, the massive black hole has some 200 to 300 thousand years to influence the shape of that Hydrogen I.
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