I generally stay out of 9/11 threads, because I have a hard time keeping my temper with 9/11 CTs - not to mention I don't have enough time to dissect the endless stream of FUD they pump out.

But I find the "no plane hit the Pentagon" ones especially repellent. Maybe it's because I live near D.C. and work with firefighters who were there that day, pulling pieces of bodies and 757 out. Maybe it's just because they're so willing to endlessly ignore reality and build cloud-castles of paranoia and denial for their vicious fantasies.

Most of which did not say they actually saw a plane hit the Pentagon. If you look at the accounts, the vast majority saw a plane nearby, but did not see an actual impact.

Steve Anderson: "I witnessed the jet hit the Pentagon on September 11.
...I watched in horror as the plane flew at treetop level, banked slightly to the left, drug it's wing along the ground and slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon exploding into a giant orange fireball...."

"Suddenly I saw this plane right outside my window," Anlauf said during a telephone interview from her hotel room this morning. "You felt like you could touch it; it was that close. It was just incredible. "Then it shot straight across from where we are and flew right into the Pentagon. It was just this huge fireball that crashed into the wall (of the Pentagon)."

Gary Bauer: "We looked out the front of our windows to try to see the plane, and it wasn’t until a few seconds later that we realized the jet was coming up behind us on that major highway. And it veered to the right into the Pentagon."

Sean Boger: "I just looked up and I saw the big nose and the wings of the aircraft coming right at us and I just watched it hit the building..."

Donald R. Bouchoux: ""At 9:40 a.m. I was driving down Washington Boulevard (Route 27) along the side of the Pentagon when the aircraft crossed about 200 yards in front of me and impacted the side of the building. There was an enormous fireball."

Pam Bradley: "I work in Washington DC area, and was on my way to work, in my car, sitting on a bridge, and saw the plane hit the Pentagon."

Susan Carroll: "...I saw the plane hit and the fireball and explosion at the Pentagon."

James R. Cissell: "I thought, 'This isn't really happening. That is a big plane.' ... While he remembers seeing the crash, Cissell remembers none of the sounds..."

Mike Dobbs: "It was an American airlines airliner. I was looking out the window and saw it come right over the Navy annex at a slow angle. It looked to me to be on a zero-to-zero course. It seemed to be almost coming in in slow motion. I didn't actually feel it hit, but I saw it and then we all started running."

Daryl Donley: "I could see the windows. I saw the entire plane and then saw it fly right into the Pentagon."

Terrance Kean: "I saw this very, very large passenger jet," said the architect, who had been packing for a move. "It just plowed right into the side of the Pentagon."

Mitch Mitchell: "I looked out to the front and saw, coming straight down the road at us, a huge jet plane clearly with American Airlines written on it, and it looked like it was coming in to hit us. I told my wife, 'It's going to hit the Pentagon.' It crossed about 100 feet in front of us and at about 20 feet altitude and we watched it go in."

Just a sample. Of course, if someone saw a jetliner fly low overhead, right at the Pentagon, and a few seconds later saw a fireball, but didn't see the actual impact because of some visual obstruction, then of course it's just as likely the aircraft pulled up, flew undetected to an airfield in West Virginia or somewhere - it's not like there's many people in the D.C. suburbs and exurbs to notice such a thing - where the passengers were silently exterminated. Of course.

Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.