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Old 30-August-2006, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Attiyah Zahdeh View Post
Hello SMEaton,
Also reviewing the Google-searched images will show you a ratio of the photographs of the midnight sun having somewhat blue backgrounds. Those such photographs do not disprove my idea because it is greatly probable that they were taken during moony nights or at times of all-sky, somewhat bright auroras in the lower ionosphere during magnetic storms or substorms.
Did you look through the NOAA site I linked to?
You're creating problems where there aren't any. You're assuming that your theory is correct, and then trying to fit the data into the framework of your assumptions. "Moony nights"? Have you ever seen an all-blue sky during a full moon? I haven't, and I've observed many full moons.
Attiyah, do you live in the northern latitudes, where the 'midnight sun' phenomenon is common? If not, have you visited there? Or talked to people who do live there? Or are you basing this off of photographs? That's an honest question, and a valid one. If you do live in such a region, then you need to provide your own photographic evidence, without bias, to support the theory you have put forth. All I have is what you've provided as evidence and what I can find through Google. But then, I'm not the one presenting an alternate theory.
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However, it is obvious that you avoided answering my questions.
No, I didn't. You linked only two webpages that actually had photos included. I viewed those. The Scandinavian "midnight sun" photo, that you initially referenced, shows a blue sky, even though the sun is near the horizon. The other photo looks overexposed. In fact, both photos are more than likely overexposed, since they're pointed more or less directly at the sun. My point is this: to successfully present any image as empirical evidence of a phenomenon, that image must be carefully processed to account for any aberration that might skew or bias the data. Such as: overexposure, chromatic aberration, spherical aberration, CCD bias, and so on. Many of these apply more to telescopic astrophotography than simple shoot-from-the-hip scenic photography (apologies to any scenic photographers out there who might be reading this).
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How do you explain the presence of the luminous Sun above the horizon of a clear sky meanwhile the sky itself is dark and there is no daylight?
The evidence you've provided does not support this.
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How do you explain a sunny midnight?
Once again, the photos you've provided does not support this.
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How do you explain the "all night" sun?
Stating the same question in three different ways does not equate to "questions".
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Regarding the references for the spectral data, you can google such titles: the Sun's composition, the solar spectra from SOHO, and the solar irradiance on the Moon.
I've googled enough already. When one presents specific data as you have, there should be references ready in case someone calls it into question. Did you gather and process this data yourself? Pretend you're in front of a panel of university astronomy professors, and you're presenting your thesis. When asked about a set of data, do you tell the interviewer to look it up themselves?